Guest Robert B. Fish Posted March 17, 2010 at 02:29 PM Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 at 02:29 PM Your state legislature publishes its minutes. If your group posts them on the web or prints copies in your newsletter, that is NOT "publishing" them in this sense. This term causes some confusion and many of us look forward to seeing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kim Goldsworthy Posted March 17, 2010 at 05:46 PM Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 at 05:46 PM Amy, In the (U.S.) congressional sense, the key elements are probably: (a.) nonmembers can view the document(s) without a current member's intervention making access possible. -- It's just "out there" for anybody to read. (b.) loss o" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amy Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:00 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:00 PM Bob - Do you have any point of reference I can use in arguing your point? My instinct when initially reading this language is exactly as you describe, I just don't have anyting to back up my position. Thanks for taking the time to re" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Mervosh Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:17 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:17 PM Sadly RONR doesn't provide backup, which is why Bob and I and the world is confident RONR 11 will clear it up. Are you under pressure regarding this matter or just intellectual curiousity?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Honemann Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:17 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:17 PM If your organization is in doubt about whether or not it is "publishing" its minutes within the meaning of the rules in RONR, you can count upon the fact that it isn't." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert B. Fish Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:23 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:23 PM I'm afraid the above answer from the authorship team is the best "proof" that you can get just yet. Just tell them, "because Dan said so." <g> -Bob" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:30 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:30 PM Dan, What is your sense, then, of what "published" means for governmental bodies (town boards, city councils, etc.) that are either required to publish their minutes in a local newspaper or, at a minimum, make the minutes of their meetings avai" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Honemann Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:59 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 at 07:59 PM Dan, it is necessary to read (and understand) the laws which require such publication or accessibility in order to know exactly what it is that they require. RONR is referring to voluntary publication of an organization's proceedings." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted March 24, 2010 at 08:08 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 at 08:08 PM >>RONR is referring to voluntary publication of an organization's proceedings.<< Which is not to say it knows what "publication" is but, like Justice Stewart and pornography, it knows it when it sees it. And it rare" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ann Rempel Posted March 25, 2010 at 02:44 AM Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 at 02:44 AM <<RONR is referring to voluntary publication of an organization's proceedings.>> And when an organization voluntarily puts its minutes on a Web site for the world to see, it is understandaable (at least to me) that readers may think t" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John M. Posted March 25, 2010 at 03:02 AM Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 at 03:02 AM >>And when an organization voluntarily puts its minutes on a Web site for the world to see, it is understandaable (at least to me) that readers may think the minutes are "published" as the word is used on p.458.<< I suspect " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amy Posted March 25, 2010 at 05:00 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 at 05:00 PM I am getting pressure on the issue. I would like to say I have the time to look for things that I think are intellectually curious, but unfortunately, I don't. The pressure is that some individuals are using the "publishing" language to say th" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted March 25, 2010 at 05:04 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 at 05:04 PM >>the demand is for verbatim minutes<< Well, unless this "demand" is made by a majority, you can ignore it. And if there is a majority in favor of verbatim minutes, one of them should be willing to serve as secretar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John M. Posted March 25, 2010 at 06:02 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 at 06:02 PM >>In short, the demand is for verbatim minutes of the proceedings where 80 individuals each spoke for about 15 minutes on a subject, based on the fact that our minutes are "published" on our website.<< Ultimately, such a dec" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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