Guest JDStackpole Posted March 25, 2010 at 11:05 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 at 11:05 PM Your (informed) guess is correct. They are indeed making things up out of whole cloth - don't pay those dues, use your money to buy a copy of RONR and read Section 54 which will tell you (and your friends) how to properly form an organization based on dem" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kim Goldsworthy Posted March 25, 2010 at 11:23 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 at 11:23 PM Mary, If you never had bylaws, then what document(s): • defined the board's size and composition? • defined "member" (a person who can vote)? • defined the meetings and the meeting day/hour? One qu" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mary Posted March 26, 2010 at 04:19 PM Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 at 04:19 PM #1 - Never had documents, #2 - board size is 6 (President, 2 co-VP, 2 Co-Secty and 1 Treasurer) again this is a parent-funded #3 - member is association member-everyone could have voted regardless of the ## of meetings. General Meetings were " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mary Posted March 26, 2010 at 04:26 PM Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 at 04:26 PM CORRECTION...ONLY minutes read---never motion to approve/oppose...etc. Bylaws were never read, emailed or hard copies given to association members." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John M. Posted March 26, 2010 at 05:41 PM Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 at 05:41 PM >>board size is 6<< No it isn't. Since you have no Bylaws, you have no board. >>member is association member<< Since you have no Bylaws, you have no association. Meetings are in the nature of mass meeting" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mary Posted March 26, 2010 at 07:16 PM Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 at 07:16 PM Thank you all for your comments!!! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nancy N. Posted March 27, 2010 at 04:57 AM Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 at 04:57 AM I'll agree that the existence of a board is predicated on a set of bylaws' establishing it. But this stuff about bylaws establishing existence of a group goes too far. There's a standardized statement of this, and if I find it soon, then so ther" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted March 27, 2010 at 09:43 AM Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 at 09:43 AM No one is saying that "groups" can't exist and function without bylaws. The argument is stronger, I think, when speaking of "organizations" or "associations" but the argument may still be semantic. It's even possible" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kim Goldsworthy Posted March 27, 2010 at 04:00 PM Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 at 04:00 PM Nancy, >>But this stuff about bylaws establishing existence of a group goes too far. There's a standardized statement of this, and if I find it soon, then so there! << A citation from RONR might do the trick. See Section " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted March 27, 2010 at 04:06 PM Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 at 04:06 PM >>Thus implying: (a.) no "voting members"; (b.) no board.<< Hogwash. You can't apply RONR to a non-RONR universe. So cite all you want." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fair NJ Posted March 27, 2010 at 07:18 PM Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 at 07:18 PM I am a memeber---have been for the past 2 years BUT NOW they want a "dues" which was not told to the members at our March General Meeting; but after the meeting via email. Members are somewhat confuse; since this wasn't mentioned in any" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mary Posted March 27, 2010 at 07:21 PM Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 at 07:21 PM But I am a member--the notice of "dues" were never discuss UNTIL AFTER the March meeting and it was by email. Members of the association were never informed prior--and the dues...ready...Its to pay for the insurance of the board!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nancy N. Posted March 28, 2010 at 04:23 AM Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 at 04:23 AM Mary, the tail is wagging the dog. The membership _*is*_ the organization. The board -- if it exists, which some of us, here on the Internet, seriously doubt -- is a construct of the membership. The membership owns the board. The board should be obedi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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