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[Guest Kim Goldsworthy]

Barry,

Bad news.

That text you quoted does NOT appear, as is, in the current Tenth Edition of RONR.

It is similar, but I don't think you want to know how similar it is.

-kg

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[Guest John M.]

>>Does anyone know where in Robert's Rules 10th Edition the following can be found?<<

Nowhere. The text you've provided is from the 4th edition.

The same motion is discussed in the 10th edition on pgs. 266-270."

[Guest Barry]

If the The text is from the 4th edition. Would it then still be considered valid in the 10th edition?

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[Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle]

>>Would it then still be considered valid in the 10th edition?<<

I'm afraid that question makes no sense.

The text in the 4th edition is what it is. The text in the 10th edition is what it is. One is no more or less "val"

[Guest Trina]

If your bylaws specifically adopted the 4th edition as parliamentary authority, then that's what you go by. If the bylaws contain language to adopt the most recent edition, then that's the 10th.

I'm not sure if that addresses your question.

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[Guest Barry]

Our By-Law's state the following:

Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised shall control at any Regular or Special meeting of the organization unless suspended by the President or presiding officer with approval by a majority of the members pr"

[Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle]

Then the 10th edition is The Right Book for your organization."

[Guest Barry]

We recently revised our by-laws. In doing so the board went through the changes line by line until we all came to agreement. The Board also discussed how it would be sent to membership and agreed to do it electronically. We sent it out to membership as "

[Guest Trina]

> We sent it out to membership as all or nothing do to the difficulty of keeping it coherent for them to vote on. Is there anything in Robert's Rules that would make this vote invalid? <

Ah, now a question behind the original question a"

[Guest Barry]

No only you."

[Guest Kim Goldsworthy]

Barry,

>>Is there anything in Robert's Rules that would make this vote invalid? <<

kg: Yes.

If you didn't follow the amendment process, THAT would invalidate the vote.

For example:

You cannot vote by mail (which I"

[Guest Shmuel Gerber]

"The Board also discussed how it would be sent to membership and agreed to do it electronically. ... Is there anything in Robert's Rules that would make this vote invalid?"

Yes. Absentee voting is not valid unless authorized in the byla"

[Guest Barry]

Below is what is in our by-laws:

These By-laws may be changed or amended by a simple majority of members voting.

The Board of Directors must approve by a majority vote any proposed amendments and shall determine when and how the voting b"

[Guest Trina]

> The vote sent out to membership was not by mail, rather through an anonymous electronic ballot basically stating all or nothing to stay coherent. So is there anything to invalidate the results? <

Yeah, the vote is invalid. As others have "

[Guest Rob Elsman]

"...unless suspended by the President or presiding officer with approval by a majority of the members present."

In ordinary, non-legislative assemblies, a rule permitting the suspension of rules of order by a "majority of the membe"

[Guest Barry]

Maybe I should clarify. Our organization is international and fairly large we have never had more than 40% of membership together at one time, for that matter we normally do not have 40% of membership vote though all are given the opportunity. Anything "

[Guest Rob Elsman]

The correct answer to your question has more to do with the organization's governing documents than anything in RONR. As far as RONR goes, it is a fundamental principle of parliamentary law that voting is limited to members who are actually present, at th"

[Guest Dan Honemann]

You are asking for an interpretation of your organization's own, customized rules.

This forum deals with the rules in RONR."

[Guest Trina]

> We have always, >>as our By-Laws state<<, had the board go through required By- Law changes and then present them to our membership, electronically or by mail, for a vote. <

If you did, indeed, follow your bylaws (which is for"

[Guest John M.]

>>It appears that our By-Laws allow for the Board to put out the By-Law changes how they see fit, is there anything to invalidate the vote coming in from membership as an all or nothing, knowing the Board went through them line by line?<<

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