Shmuel Gerber Posted July 6, 2017 at 07:44 PM Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 at 07:44 PM How about: I move to suspend the rules and agree to the adoption of the pending main motion as it would read if all pending amendments were adopted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted July 6, 2017 at 08:37 PM Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 at 08:37 PM 32 minutes ago, Shmuel Gerber said: How about: I move to suspend the rules and agree to the adoption of the pending main motion as it would read if all pending amendments were adopted. I think that will work, but I bet it will take the chair a substantial period of time and effort to ensure that the assembly is clear as to exactly what it is being called upon to vote on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted July 6, 2017 at 09:58 PM Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 at 09:58 PM 1 hour ago, Daniel H. Honemann said: I think that will work, but I bet it will take the chair a substantial period of time and effort to ensure that the assembly is clear as to exactly what it is being called upon to vote on. And when they're done voting and the motion to Suspend the Rules is adopted, some nitpicker will probably want to know when the votes will be taken on all the motions that were pending when this incidental motion was introduced. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkourninja Posted July 11, 2017 at 01:22 PM Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 at 01:22 PM On 7/6/2017 at 3:44 PM, Shmuel Gerber said: How about: I move to suspend the rules and agree to the adoption of the pending main motion as it would read if all pending amendments were adopted. Could you then also move to suspend the rules and agree to the adoption of the pending main motion as it would read if all pending amendments were lost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted July 11, 2017 at 02:06 PM Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 at 02:06 PM 43 minutes ago, parkourninja said: Could you then also move to suspend the rules and agree to the adoption of the pending main motion as it would read if all pending amendments were lost? I don't see why not. I imagine , though, that you are hoping to hear it from Mr. Honemann or Gerber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted July 11, 2017 at 02:55 PM Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 at 02:55 PM 1 hour ago, parkourninja said: Could you then also move to suspend the rules and agree to the adoption of the pending main motion as it would read if all pending amendments were lost? What do you mean by "then"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkourninja Posted July 14, 2017 at 09:54 PM Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 at 09:54 PM On 7/11/2017 at 10:55 AM, Shmuel Gerber said: What do you mean by "then"? Not then as in sequentially, then meaning, by an extension of logic, would it be in order to move to suspend the rules and agree to the adoption of the pending main motion as it would read if all pending amendments were lost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted July 14, 2017 at 10:38 PM Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 at 10:38 PM 44 minutes ago, parkourninja said: Not then as in sequentially, then meaning, by an extension of logic, would it be in order to move to suspend the rules and agree to the adoption of the pending main motion as it would read if all pending amendments were lost? I don't see why not. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkourninja Posted July 20, 2017 at 03:37 AM Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 at 03:37 AM On 7/14/2017 at 6:38 PM, Shmuel Gerber said: I don't see why not. ? So then it would seem to me that you can, through the motion to suspend the rules, bring up and vote on the question that is not immediately pending (effectively skipping the immediately pending motion). This seems like a fundamental component of RONR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted July 20, 2017 at 03:11 PM Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 at 03:11 PM 11 hours ago, parkourninja said: So then it would seem to me that you can, through the motion to suspend the rules, bring up and vote on the question that is not immediately pending (effectively skipping the immediately pending motion). This seems like a fundamental component of RONR. In this case, I thought the objective was to decide *all* the pending questions without a direct vote on *any* of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkourninja Posted July 20, 2017 at 04:11 PM Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 at 04:11 PM 58 minutes ago, Shmuel Gerber said: In this case, I thought the objective was to decide *all* the pending questions without a direct vote on *any* of them. By moving for adoption of the pending motion as though all pending motions were lost, it would seem to me as though you are essentially bringing up the question of the main motion before handling any subsidiary motions. In other words, you could invert the motion ladder of precedence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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