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  1. Shmuel Gerber

    New Kindle version of RONR coming Out?

    Unfortunately, at this time I think the best comment is "no comment."
  2. Shmuel Gerber

    Changes to motion after notice is given

    Maybe y'all need to start a new thread in which you can argue about what Dan Honemann really meant. Of course, this being an exercise in literary analysis, Mr. Honemann's own views of the matter will be irrelevant. Now I shall proceed to explain: What he said was that if he was wrong (which he wasn't), the rights of absentees have got nothing at all to do with it. [Which, when you think about it, is an obvious statement, because how on earth could the rights of absentees have anything to do with Dan being wrong, which he never is, eh?]
  3. Shmuel Gerber


    Yep. They serve them at all the breakfasts for the Flat Earth Society.
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    He just doesn't know how to fold it right.
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  6. Shmuel Gerber

    Logging in

    Follow-up: I've changed the login options so that members should be able to sign in with either their display name or their email address (just like the screen says!). I've also put in a support request so that this feature can get fixed. Thanks for the report -- I suspect that you're not the first one to encounter this problem, but it seems that you're the only one who took the trouble to report it.
  7. Shmuel Gerber

    Logging in

    Are you trying to log in with your Display Name (katydid), or with your email address? I just tried logging in with my email address, and it didn't work; but it worked fine with my Display Name. If you can confirm that this is what's happening, I can send a bug report to the forum developers.
  8. Shmuel Gerber

    Points of Order and vote requirements

    Well, this is waaay outside the scope of this message board (as is the bulk of this entire thread), but I agree entirely that the Democratic majority in the U.S. Senate, under the leadership of Mr. Harry Reid, set a horrible precedent of allowing the majority to invent new rules by means of a vote on an appeal from the decision of the chair. But the Senate is an institution that reveres its traditions, so I suppose the Republicans had little choice but to follow suit. (Now, under the totally undemocratic rules of this message board, the moderators get the final say on this topic.)
  9. Shmuel Gerber

    Next meeting in a session

    The next meeting of a current session may not be scheduled by a specification in the privileged motion to adjourn, because if a motion to adjourn contains a specification as to the time to which to adjourn, it isn't a privileged motion.
  10. Shmuel Gerber

    Adjourn at a future time

    The correct answer is "no."
  11. Shmuel Gerber

    Discipline and Removal

    Because Mr. E (unlike Mr. X, whose name is Mr. D) is just sitting there quietly, minding his own business and would surely leave if anyone asked him to. It would be a shame if the police executed his removal, or any other part of him.
  12. Shmuel Gerber

    Discipline and Removal

    Hmm, I would definitely advise against this wording.
  13. Shmuel Gerber

    Discipline and Removal

    You're answering the question but without any supporting rule or reason (other than your "no vacuum" rule). Also, announcing one's intention is not the same thing as seeking permission, which is what the chair would be doing by saying "If there is no objection . . . ." RONR (pp. 648-49) says, "If a person—whether a member of the assembly or not—refuses to obey the order of proper authority to leave the hall during a meeting, the chair should take necessary measures to see that the order is enforced, but should be guided by a judicious appraisal of the situation. The chair can appoint a committee to escort the offender to the door, or the sergeant-at-arms—if there is one—can be asked to do this. If those who are assigned that task are unable to persuade the offender to leave, it is usually preferable that he be removed by police—who may, however, be reluctant to intervene unless representatives of the organization are prepared to press charges." I agree with Mr. Martin that this means the chair can call the police, if he or she deems it necessary to enforce the removal order, without seeking the approval of the assembly.
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    Discipline and Removal

    Since you're having trouble figuring out what his real name is, just go ahead and called him Mr. X. Unless, of course, the meeting is held in a vacuum.
  15. Shmuel Gerber

    Discipline and Removal

    It depends. Is this meeting taking place at a Starbucks?