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Shmuel Gerber

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  1. Yes. But it probably doesn't matter, and it doesn't accomplish anything unless a quorum is present.
  2. Since we all seem to be guessing what this is about, maybe it's actually a mail-in ballot that is not supposed to be secret. It's not obvious to me that it would be against the rules to have someone else fill in a mail-in ballot for the member.
  3. Why is this posted as a graphic instead of text?
  4. Sounds like a legal question to me. Sounds like it could be both a legal issue and dependent on the rules in RONR to me.
  5. But if the law allows the bylaws to take precedence, and the bylaws prescribe RONR, and RONR says you can't do it . . .
  6. Why not? RONR specifically forbids boards to act by written consent without a meeting, even if unanimous, unless authorized in the bylaws.
  7. It could be both a legal issue and dependent on the rules in RONR, as in this topic.
  8. Well, I'm glad we got that sorted out.
  9. What about this, from page 336: "Renewal of motions is limited by the basic principle that an assembly cannot be asked to decide the same, or substantially the same, question twice during one session—except through a motion to reconsider a vote (37) or a motion to rescind an action (35), or in connection with amending something already adopted (see also pp. 74–75)."
  10. It's too soon to recapitulate -- I haven't even capitulated yet.
  11. Rhyme, shmime. 🙂 That's not an accurate summary of the process, for a couple of reasons. First, before there are any votes to tabulate, the members have to vote, which happens only when the chair puts the question, clearly indicating what is being voted on. Second, in a great many instances (nobody, AFAIK, has tabulated exactly what percentage), there is no tabulation involved in deciding which side has prevailed in the vote; the chair simply estimates which side is greater by looking at the members who have risen or listening to the members who have responded to a voice vote.
  12. A motion to adjourn to the next stated (regular) meeting sounds to me like an ordinary motion to adjourn, which in the circumstances you describe is a privileged motion. (However, once the motion is carried, it doesn't really matter whether it should have been a main motion or not.) The pending motion would be taken up as the first item of Unfinished Business at the next meeting (unless there is a "special order" set for the next meeting, and the pending motion is not also a special order).
  13. It's too bad that this reply hasn't gotten more attention. I see a very large number of responses, in other topics, about procedures for adopting a special rule of order, but they're probably not applicable because the case seems to involve a subordinate board, which cannot adopt a special rule of order that conflicts with the parliamentary authority. RONR is rather clear that nonmembers are not allowed to speak in debate unless the rules are suspended for that purpose.
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