Guest Baldwintwp Posted March 22, 2011 at 02:41 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 02:41 PM We have a 5 member board. When 2 members remain silent during a vote and 2 others voting yes and the chair voting no and the chair claiming the motion carries do the silent votes constitute a yes, no or abstention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted March 22, 2011 at 02:48 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 02:48 PM We have a 5 member board. When 2 members remain silent during a voteThose are abstentions. and 2 others voting yes and the chair voting no and the chair claiming the motion carries do the silent votes constitute a yes, no or abstention?Abstentions do not count as votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 22, 2011 at 04:37 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 04:37 PM We have a 5 member board. When 2 members remain silent during a vote and 2 others voting yes and the chair voting no and the chair claiming the motion carries do the silent votes constitute a yes, no or abstention?2 Yes, 1 No. The motion apparently carries. It passes the test for a majority, or for a 2/3 vote, so unless you know something you haven't told us, the chair was right. There is no such thing as a silent vote. Those people did not vote. They abstained from the voting process. Abstentions are not votes of any kind, and should be neither called for nor counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted March 22, 2011 at 04:58 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 04:58 PM There is no such thing as a silent vote. "Those in favor, remain silent... Those opposed, remain silent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted March 22, 2011 at 04:59 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 04:59 PM "Those in favor, remain silent... Those opposed, remain silent." It's unanimous!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:18 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:18 PM It's unanimous!!!Hey guys, I was under the impression that the Chair only votes in case of a tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:21 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:21 PM Hey guys, I was under the impression that the Chair only votes in case of a tie?See FAQ 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFontz Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:22 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:22 PM Hey guys, I was under the impression that the Chair only votes in case of a tie?But it isn't a tie....2 people voted in favor, 1 person voted against and 2 people didn't vote at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:34 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:34 PM But it isn't a tie....2 people voted in favor, 1 person voted against and 2 people didn't vote at all.Your motion passed, unless you have a rule that requires the vote to be based on the members present or the entire membership. In any event, since the chair's announcement was not contested at the time, it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:43 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 05:43 PM Hey guys, I was under the impression that the Chair only votes in case of a tie?Well, in small board meetings, which this was, the chair can vote right along with the other members, subject to rule or custom within the board which should be followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Posted March 22, 2011 at 09:11 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 09:11 PM Do the two silent members count as being in attendance with respect to the 2/3 rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted March 22, 2011 at 09:17 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 at 09:17 PM Do the two silent members count as being in attendance with respect to the 2/3 ruleWhat "2/3 rule" are you referring to?(Present members are present -- "in attendance" -- whether they vote or not.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 23, 2011 at 01:41 AM Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 at 01:41 AM Do the two silent members count as being in attendance with respect to the 2/3 ruleThere is no "2/3 rule" with respect to attendance. They count as being in attendance for the purposes of establishing a quorum. They do not count as voting, because they didn't. So in any voting rule that counts "those present and voting" They don't count. They're present, but they're not voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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