Guest pam kyte Posted April 1, 2011 at 05:03 PM Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 at 05:03 PM If an organisation votes by 2/3rd to remove a member and send that member a letter asking them to resign. Is it true that this matter can never be discussed outside the club even if the hierarchy of the organisation wishes to offer help to the group. The group asked for no help to resolve the problem from the chairman of the organisation and any help from the chairman and deputy chairman was constantly rebuffed. Is the a veil of silence over the club which means that it cannot be discussed in any meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 1, 2011 at 05:45 PM Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 at 05:45 PM If an organisation votes by 2/3rd to remove a member and send that member a letter asking them to resign.Wait, which is it? Did the organization remove the member or did it ask the member to resign? Also, do your Bylaws permit the organization to remove the member by a 2/3 vote. While the default expulsion process in RONR does ultimately come down to a 2/3 vote, that's at the end of a lengthy disciplinary process detailed in Ch. XX.Is it true that this matter can never be discussed outside the club even if the hierarchy of the organisation wishes to offer help to the group. The group asked for no help to resolve the problem from the chairman of the organisation and any help from the chairman and deputy chairman was constantly rebuffed. Is the a veil of silence over the club which means that it cannot be discussed in any meeting.If the disciplinary procedures were conducted in executive session (which is highly recommended), no one in the assembly may discuss the matter with anyone outside of the assembly, unless the assembly decides to divulge some information to others (majority vote required). This applies even to the parent organization (although the Bylaws of your organization or the parent organization might provide otherwise on that point). If the disciplinary procedures were (unwisely) conducted outside of executive session, members can talk to whoever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted April 1, 2011 at 05:47 PM Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 at 05:47 PM If an organisation votes by 2/3rd to remove a member and send that member a letter asking them to resign.Assuming the motion was properly introduced and adopted, the former member is out, so why would he be asked to resign?Is it true that this matter can never be discussed outside the club even if the hierarchy of the organisation wishes to offer help to the group. The group asked for no help to resolve the problem from the chairman of the organisation and any help from the chairman and deputy chairman was constantly rebuffed. Is the a veil of silence over the club which means that it cannot be discussed in any meeting.I think RONR(10th ed.), p. 630-631 might hold your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 1, 2011 at 07:47 PM Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 at 07:47 PM If the disciplinary procedures were (unwisely) conducted outside of executive session, members can talk to whoever they want.But not necessarily with impunity. One of the reasons RONR recommends releasing no information is that the rules for establishing conduct deserving of removal are considerably more lax than those required to establish slander. It's similar to discussing an employee who was fired. The only information it is safe to release is that they were once a member(employee) and they no longer are.It's possible to be in pleasing parliamentary perfection, yet still end up in serious civil sewage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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