Robert's Rules of Order Revised and Roberts Rules of Order Newly Revised

[gregory]

Our Recording Secretary made a bylaw amendment to enact what they

are calling a "assembly" style membership meeting. One of the bylaw

amendments he wrote is to govern that "Assembly" meeting is copied below.

"All Assembly's will be governed by Roberts Rules of Order, Revised.

Now, they are advertising this bylaw change by stating the new

Assembly style meetings will be governed by Roberts Rules of Order,

Newly Revised.

I suspect they will be using this same language on the secret ballot

when we vote on it.

Is this a problem since the actual bylaw amendment language and the

upcoming secret ballot language DO NOT match?

Please advise.

[Gary Novosielski]

Our Recording Secretary made a bylaw amendment to enact what they

are calling a "assembly" style membership meeting. One of the bylaw

amendments he wrote is to govern that "Assembly" meeting is copied below.

"All Assembly's will be governed by Roberts Rules of Order, Revised.

Now, they are advertising this bylaw change by stating the new

Assembly style meetings will be governed by Roberts Rules of Order,

Newly Revised.

I suspect they will be using this same language on the secret ballot

when we vote on it.

Is this a problem since the actual bylaw amendment language and the

upcoming secret ballot language DO NOT match?

Please advise.

That and the ungrammatical use of the word "Assamby's" (posessive--the Assembly's what?) when presumably he intended to write Assemblies (plural).

Rober's Rules of Order Revised (ROR) refers to the 1915 edition which is pretty clearly out of date.

So yes, it's a problem in several ways.

[dglynch]

The wording that will be final and official is whatever is stated by the chair right before he opens the polls for voting. It would behoove your association to make sure all their copies of this amendment say the same thing.

By the way, the authors of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised assert that their book is the legitimate successor to Robert's Rules of Order Revised, and that all associations whose bylaws specify the latter book, without specifying a particular edition, are in fact governed by the former book, since it is the latest edition thereof. Just another fact to throw into this mix.

[Guest Edgar]

Our Recording Secretary made a bylaw amendment to enact what they are calling an "assembly" style membership meeting.

The title of the book is the least of the imperfections in this imperfect motion. If you can't "perfect" it during its consideration, vote against its adoption.

An "assembly-style" meeting? Really?

[Dan Honemann]

By the way, the authors of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised assert that their book is the legitimate successor to Robert's Rules of Order Revised ...

This is more than a mere assertion (see the Introduction, especially pp. xlv-xlviii, to the 11th Edition).

... and that all associations whose bylaws specify the latter book, without specifying a particular edition, are in fact governed by the former book, since it is the latest edition thereof.

Well, this isn't exactly what we say (see p. vii), but it does make a lot of sense, as a matter of bylaw interpretation, after you think about it for awhile.