Ludloe Bushmac Posted August 4, 2012 at 05:52 PM Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 at 05:52 PM Is there a provision in Roberts Rules of Order for a newly elected member to remove himself from the vote without having to abstain, which I understand serves as a no vote? The new member hasn’t had enough time to have studied a very complicated issue, and a vote needs to be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weldon Merritt Posted August 4, 2012 at 06:08 PM Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 at 06:08 PM If you are present but don't vote, you have abstained. That is the meaning of abstention, to refrain from voting. But contary to your understanding, an abstention does not "serve as a no vote." It is simply not a vote of any kind. In some instances (if your rules reauire a majoity of teh entire commission or a majority of those present) an abstention may have the same effect as a no vot, but it still is not a vote. Even in those cases, there is no way you can "remove [yourself] from the vote," if you are present, other than by abstaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted August 4, 2012 at 06:15 PM Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 at 06:15 PM Is there a provision in Roberts Rules of Order for a newly elected member to remove himself from the vote without having to abstain[?]One way to achieve this goal is to not attend the meeting. I can't think of any others at the moment. But, most likely either way, the effect will be the same, so why not just abstain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted August 4, 2012 at 06:31 PM Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 at 06:31 PM Is there a provision in Roberts Rules of Order for a newly elected member to remove himself from the vote without having to abstain, which I understand serves as a no vote?See FAQ #6.The new member hasn’t had enough time to have studied a very complicated issue, and a vote needs to be taken.I suspect that even some of those members with "enough time" might not fully understand this very complicated issue. And they'll probably vote. It happens all the time. When in doubt, there's nothing wrong with voting "no" and preserving the status quo.ZYyYBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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