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Guest Liz Wincup

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How do you determine "If the president is a member of the voting body"?

It would be unusual if he wasn't.

And note that even though there are times when the president shouldn't vote, if he's a member (of the body that is meeting) he always has the right to vote.

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Thank you. I guess our president can continue to vote on issues at union meetings. We were told by our reginal person that presidents only vote to break a tie. Obviously, seeing the first question in the FAQ makes than an untrue statement. Thanks for your quick response.

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We were told by our reginal person that presidents only vote to break a tie.

This is a common error, apparently. Next time, ask this person to show you the rule on that. It's possible the bylaws (or other rules) say this, but it is not found in RONR.

The size (and type) of voting body may play into this. RONR includes some 'small board' rules, whereby at a board meeting with about a dozen or fewer members in attendance, the president can participate fully, making motions, debating and voting. At meetings of larger bodies and of the general membership, the president (In order to present a standing of impartiality) should refrain from voting, except when the vote is conducted by ballot, of if his vote will affect the result. He is under no obligation to vote at those times, but it's not a problem either.

You mention this is occuring "at general monthly meetings." So, if these are meetings of the general union membership, not of the board of directors, the president should probably not be voting as often as it sounds. It also may not be much of a problem either, it's just not per the rules in RONR. Details would help.

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In a recent HOA meeting there was confusion regarding the president's position as a tie breaker. Her husband had taken part in the genral voting as the representative for their household, should she have been allowed to make the tie breaking vote?

Per RONR, if the president is a member of the voting body, she could vote in cases where her vote would affect the result, such as voting in the affirmative in the case of a tie. With your HOA, there may be additional rules (bylaws, local and state law, and so forth) that would supercede the rules found in RONR, and might preclude her from voting if her husband (the "household representative") already had. You need to check with the HOA governing documents to see what can be found in there.

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