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During a meeting if we have a motion to approve but do not have a second motion is the vote on the table dead before the rest of the group votes?

If a motion that requires a second doesn't get a second, then the motion is said to "die". No debate. No vote.

The table isn't involved at all.

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During a meeting if we have a motion to approve but do not have a second motion is the vote on the table dead before the rest of the group votes?

Guest_Kelly, please try again, if you would. You've got a motion "to approve" (what?) without a second motion (do you think you need another motion to approve whatever the first motion wants to approve?) and there is a "vote on the table" (how'd it get there?) and the "rest of the group" (what group?) hasn't voted yet?

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During a meeting if we have a motion to approve but do not have a second motion is the vote on the table dead before the rest of the group votes?

If a motion requires a second (most of them do), then the motion "dies" if it does not receive a second. The motion is not stated by the chair (which puts it on "the floor," not "the table"... that's something else), and never goes to debate or a vote.

In the situation you've described, however, it seems that the assembly may not have been paying attention to the requirement of a second, since it sounds like some members had already voted. By the time debate has begun (let alone by the time voting has begun), it's too late to complain about the lack of a second.

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