Tomm Posted September 24, 2020 at 02:21 AM Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 at 02:21 AM Would I be correct to argue that a motion to Amend a Bylaw or other such pre-established, pre existing Special Rule of Order, Standing Rule etc. is really an Incidental Main Motion. It's not correct to simply make a motion to (i.e "Amend Article II, Section 3 by striking out the words.....") the motion should actually be, "I move to Amend Something Previously Adopted by amending Article II, Section 3 by striking out the words....."? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted September 24, 2020 at 02:32 AM Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 at 02:32 AM If the effect of the motion is to amend something that actually was previously adopted, such as bylaws, it is not necessary to say the words "Something Previously Adopted" when making the motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted September 24, 2020 at 03:56 AM Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 at 03:56 AM 1 hour ago, Tomm said: Would I be correct to argue that a motion to Amend a Bylaw or other such pre-established, pre existing Special Rule of Order, Standing Rule etc. is really an Incidental Main Motion. Shouldn't be much of an argument. Just quote RONR (12th ed.) 35:1, ". . . the motions to Rescind and to Amend Something Previously Adopted—which are two forms of one incidental main motion . . ." But why are you arguing this point? What difference does it make in your situation? 1 hour ago, Tomm said: It's not correct to simply make a motion to (i.e "Amend Article II, Section 3 by striking out the words.....") the motion should actually be, "I move to Amend Something Previously Adopted by amending Article II, Section 3 by striking out the words....."? That's not what RONR (12th ed.) 35:9 says when giving the Form and Example for this motion, "In a great many instances, the motion or resolution originally adopted is not referred to, and only the bylaw, rule, or policy to be rescinded or amended is mentioned. For example: MEMBER A (obtaining the floor): In accordance with the notice given in the call of this meeting, I move to amend Article V, Section 3 of the bylaws by striking out subparagraph (c) thereof. (Second.)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted September 24, 2020 at 03:23 PM Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 at 03:23 PM 12 hours ago, Tomm said: Would I be correct to argue that a motion to Amend a Bylaw or other such pre-established, pre existing Special Rule of Order, Standing Rule etc. is really an Incidental Main Motion. Yes, although I would be curious to know why this argument is arising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted September 24, 2020 at 06:53 PM Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 at 06:53 PM It was more of a pissing contest as to whether it was just a Main Motion or an Incidental Main Motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted September 27, 2020 at 01:04 AM Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 at 01:04 AM On 9/24/2020 at 2:53 PM, Tomm said: It was more of a pissing contest as to whether it was just a Main Motion or an Incidental Main Motion. Such contests often accomplish little more than getting people pissed off--and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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