graham lascsak Posted January 13, 2022 at 07:22 PM Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 at 07:22 PM Is liaison defined in RONR? or is the word used anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 13, 2022 at 07:38 PM Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 at 07:38 PM The word ls not defined. It is used in two places, not in the sense of an office, but in the ordinary dictionary definition of the word--particularly as it relates to communication between units of an organization--likely an artifact of General Robert's military background. You will find it in 59:65, and 59:82, noting where liaison should be maintained between different committees of a convention.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted January 13, 2022 at 08:57 PM Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 at 08:57 PM On 1/13/2022 at 2:38 PM, Gary Novosielski said: not in the sense of an office, but in the ordinary dictionary definition of the word--particularly as it relates to communication between units of an organization--likely an artifact of General Robert's military background. Oh, so in RONR it doesn't mean "Pronunciation of the usually silent final consonant of a word when followed by a word beginning with a vowel, especially in French"? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 14, 2022 at 05:20 AM Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 at 05:20 AM On 1/13/2022 at 3:57 PM, Shmuel Gerber said: Oh, so in RONR it doesn't mean "Pronunciation of the usually silent final consonant of a word when followed by a word beginning with a vowel, especially in French"? 🙂 No, nor does it mean a secret sexual relationship. But neither does it rule one out, if the bylaws are silent on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted January 14, 2022 at 06:28 AM Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 at 06:28 AM On 1/14/2022 at 12:20 AM, Gary Novosielski said: No, nor does it mean a secret sexual relationship. But neither does it rule one out, if the bylaws are silent on the matter. Especially in French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted January 14, 2022 at 06:36 AM Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 at 06:36 AM On 1/14/2022 at 1:28 AM, Shmuel Gerber said: Especially in French. Those are particularly Dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 14, 2022 at 07:17 PM Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 at 07:17 PM On 1/14/2022 at 1:28 AM, Shmuel Gerber said: Especially in French. But we were just pronouncing a few final consonants, honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 14, 2022 at 07:19 PM Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 at 07:19 PM On 1/14/2022 at 1:36 AM, Atul Kapur said: Those are particularly Dangerous. This is turning into Roberr's Rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Graham Lascsak Posted January 17, 2022 at 10:06 PM Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 at 10:06 PM I truly appreciate the contributors to the question as posed. Would roberts rules admin please delete the comments about the french definition? as well as remove this user from hyjacking future questions? The question as stated dealt with how and/or where RONR defined a certain term. To steer the conversation to a foreign language is dilatory to users who are serious about about excising the right to assemble. When it comes to definitions it doesn't matter the word as long a the body has the word defined within its definitions. The fact that Robert did not define liaison in his book puts the definition under the bylaws and special rules of the assembly. Which in our case would be the common understanding of the word in English.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 18, 2022 at 12:00 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 at 12:00 AM On 1/17/2022 at 5:06 PM, Guest Graham Lascsak said: I truly appreciate the contributors to the question as posed. Would roberts rules admin please delete the comments about the french definition? as well as remove this user from hyjacking future questions? The question as stated dealt with how and/or where RONR defined a certain term. To steer the conversation to a foreign language is dilatory to users who are serious about about excising the right to assemble. When it comes to definitions it doesn't matter the word as long a the body has the word defined within its definitions. The fact that Robert did not define liaison in his book puts the definition under the bylaws and special rules of the assembly. Which in our case would be the common understanding of the word in English.  Well, Guest Lascsak, the person who made the crack about the French pronunciations (which is a valid dictionary definition in English, by the way) is one of the authors of RONR, so I don't think you're going to succeed in getting him kicked out. But good luck with that; let us know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted January 18, 2022 at 12:45 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 at 12:45 AM On 1/17/2022 at 5:06 PM, Guest Graham Lascsak said: To steer the conversation to a foreign language is dilatory to users who are serious about about excising the right to assemble. Your Honor, I plead not guilty by reason of having put a smiley at the end of my reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted January 18, 2022 at 12:54 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 at 12:54 AM On 1/17/2022 at 7:00 PM, Gary Novosielski said: I don't think you're going to succeed in getting him kicked out. But good luck with that; let us know how it goes. That's OK, I'd rather he didn't try. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Graham Lascsak Posted January 18, 2022 at 07:36 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 at 07:36 AM Alright, now we know i have a pet peeve with off topic topic's. Im laughing as i go through this and i pick up my hard copy of RONR and see you in the cover. At the same time this is my first question to the community. I've actually read RONR twice from cover to cover including copyright info and the index. I was introduced to Robert in 2017 and am perplexed with how the rules of order are not more common placed than they are. So as an aspiring parliamentarian with gigs already lining up, my fascination only intensifies with this thread at this point because im the one out of order. Im constantly going through assembly minutes and public chats and 50% is horse poo poo, so when i got here and felt that with the french poo poo, i was like 'oh no, not more of this'. I just want the relevant substance but realize at the same time it's not up to me. So I appreciate your input Shmuel Gerber, look forward to what ever you got in the future, and am moving to another question and with that i yield. (your honor, too funny). So ya, won't be trying to get you removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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