Guest pjbrettin@yahoo.com Posted March 5, 2024 at 04:09 AM Report Share Posted March 5, 2024 at 04:09 AM As a new Parliamentarian, getting ready for an upcoming large organizational convention, in our bylaws it is stated that I am (do to the position) responsible for printing the election ballots, designing the election ballots, instructing the Tellers, and the election, itself. I am to decide how the ballots will be tallied too. According to the current RONR, 12th edition, I do not see this within the pages of RONR. Am I really responsible and should the bylaws be revised in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 5, 2024 at 04:33 AM Report Share Posted March 5, 2024 at 04:33 AM Well, there's a lot of information on elections in RONR, but no it does not assign this responsibility to the parliamentarian. However if that's what your bylaws say, then that's the way it is. The tellers are usually appointed by the president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted March 5, 2024 at 11:31 AM Report Share Posted March 5, 2024 at 11:31 AM (edited) On 3/4/2024 at 10:09 PM, Guest pjbrettin@yahoo.com said: According to the current RONR, 12th edition, I do not see this within the pages of RONR. Yes, that's because it isn't in there. Under RONR, the presiding officer appoints the tellers. To the extent any instructions are necessary for the tellers, they would come from the assembly itself. It would be the tellers that would determine how ballots are counted, subject to the rules in RONR and any instructions on this matter from the assembly, and if the meaning is in doubt and the ballot could affect the result, the question should be submitted to the assembly. With all that said, however, often the parliamentarian (especially in a convention) will serve as an advisor to various committees, possibly including the tellers' committee, on parliamentary matters. In the case of the tellers' committee, that may well include advice on how particular ballots should be counted, and how to prepare the tellers' report. RONR does not assign any particular person the responsibility of printing or designing the ballots. That will be up to the organization's rules or customs. It is somewhat unusual, in my view, for such duties to be assigned to the parliamentarian. Generally, my experience is that such duties are assigned to the Secretary, to the organization's staff (if any), or to a committee responsible for handling elections. On 3/4/2024 at 10:09 PM, Guest pjbrettin@yahoo.com said: Am I really responsible Yes. Your organization's bylaws take precedence over Robert's Rules of Order. If the bylaws provide that the Parliamentarian is responsible for these matters, then the Parliamentarian is responsible for these matters. Since you apparently have responsibilities in regard to ballot votes, I would suggest you review RONR (12th ed.) 45:18-41 to see what RONR says on the subject of ballot votes. On 3/4/2024 at 10:09 PM, Guest pjbrettin@yahoo.com said: should the bylaws be revised in the future. That's not my place to say. It is up to the organization to determine the contents of its bylaws. Edited March 5, 2024 at 11:31 AM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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