Guest Guest Chris Posted November 16, 2010 at 05:30 PM Report Posted November 16, 2010 at 05:30 PM I read past posts on this, but would like a bit more clarity. The scenario is: a motion is made and second, then during discussion, an amendment to the main motion is suggested. What happens at this point? Do we go back to main motion and vote as originally presented or keep moving with the amended motion? Both motions need to be addressed correct? Thank you for your assistance.
hmtcastle Posted November 16, 2010 at 05:34 PM Report Posted November 16, 2010 at 05:34 PM I read past posts on this, but would like a bit more clarity. The scenario is: a motion is made and second, then during discussion, an amendment to the main motion is suggested. What happens at this point? Do we go back to main motion and vote as originally presented or keep moving with the amended motion? Both motions need to be addressed correct? Thank you for your assistance.You either adopt the amendment or not, then return to considering the main motion, as amended or unchanged, whichever happened.
Tim Wynn Posted November 16, 2010 at 05:50 PM Report Posted November 16, 2010 at 05:50 PM I read past posts on this, but would like a bit more clarity. The scenario is: a motion is made and second, then during discussion, an amendment to the main motion is suggested. What happens at this point? Do we go back to main motion and vote as originally presented or keep moving with the amended motion? Both motions need to be addressed correct? Thank you for your assistance.When a member moves to amend and it is seconded, the chair states the question on the amendment, and the amendment jumps in front of the main motion. The main motion waits quietly in the background, while the amendment is debated and put to a vote. After the amendment is decided, the main motion steps back into the light, with whatever alterations the amendment may have made.
Gary Novosielski Posted November 16, 2010 at 07:37 PM Report Posted November 16, 2010 at 07:37 PM I read past posts on this, but would like a bit more clarity. The scenario is: a motion is made and second, then during discussion, an amendment to the main motion is suggested. What happens at this point? Do we go back to main motion and vote as originally presented or keep moving with the amended motion? Both motions need to be addressed correct? Thank you for your assistance.No, you deal with one at a time.Example: Motion to paint the clubhouse blue. Seconded. Discussion occurs about this motion, does it need painting, how much will it cost, can we afford it, blah, blah.Motion to amend by striking the word "blue" and inserting "red". Seconded.Now, the question is no longer about the whole idea of painting, not painting, and such. The only question now is whether "red" is a better word than "blue". The stuff about cost, and how badly it needs painting, and the rest is put on the back burner until this red/blue question is decided. A vote is taken on the amendment, and it passes.Now, the motion to paint the clubhouse blue no longer exists, and it its place there is an amended motion to paint the clubhouse red. From there on, all the discussion is about this newly amended motion, but now the discussion can get back to matter of cost, and all the other factors, and perhaps someone will offer another amendment to use aluminum siding. You never know.There is really only one question before the assembly at a time. It might be the main motion, it might be the amendment, or even the amendment to the amendment, but only one at a time. Eventually you vote on the motion when it reaches its final form. That's to decide if you actually end up doing it or not.
Guest Chris Posted November 16, 2010 at 10:11 PM Report Posted November 16, 2010 at 10:11 PM No, you deal with one at a time.Example: Motion to paint the clubhouse blue. Seconded. Discussion occurs about this motion, does it need painting, how much will it cost, can we afford it, blah, blah.Motion to amend by striking the word "blue" and inserting "red". Seconded.Now, the question is no longer about the whole idea of painting, not painting, and such. The only question now is whether "red" is a better word than "blue". The stuff about cost, and how badly it needs painting, and the rest is put on the back burner until this red/blue question is decided. A vote is taken on the amendment, and it passes.Now, the motion to paint the clubhouse blue no longer exists, and it its place there is an amended motion to paint the clubhouse red. From there on, all the discussion is about this newly amended motion, but now the discussion can get back to matter of cost, and all the other factors, and perhaps someone will offer another amendment to use aluminum siding. You never know.There is really only one question before the assembly at a time. It might be the main motion, it might be the amendment, or even the amendment to the amendment, but only one at a time. Eventually you vote on the motion when it reaches its final form. That's to decide if you actually end up doing it or not.Thank you all for your responses. I particularly like the last example given as I can easily extrapolate the process into one of our Board's situation. Keep up the great insights.
Tim Wynn Posted November 17, 2010 at 04:12 AM Report Posted November 17, 2010 at 04:12 AM I particularly like the last example given as I can easily extrapolate the process into one of our Board's situation. Extrapolate last example...
Guest Larry Allan Posted November 22, 2010 at 01:48 AM Report Posted November 22, 2010 at 01:48 AM What specific part of the rules stipulate this part of the example?"Now, the motion to paint the clubhouse blue no longer exists, and it its place there is an amended motion to paint the clubhouse red."
hmtcastle Posted November 22, 2010 at 02:32 AM Report Posted November 22, 2010 at 02:32 AM What specific part of the rules stipulate this part of the example?"Now, the motion to paint the clubhouse blue no longer exists, and it its place there is an amended motion to paint the clubhouse red."Well, I think it's a bit inaccurate misleading to say that the original motion no longer exists when all that happened was that one word was changed. For instance, the maker of the original motion is still considered the maker of the motion (and is recorded in the minutes as such).See pp. 125-160 for the subsidiary motion to Amend.
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