Guest Robert Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:07 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:07 AM Can a governmental body using Roberts rules of Order in the section of the agenda called unfinished business can they bring in a one item such as a unknown resolution that is not on the agenda and vote on it? Help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:17 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:17 AM No.. "Unfinished Business" is a very specific class of business -- defined on p. 358. Is there a rule that prevents someone from bringing up the "stealth" resolution under "New Business"? That is what RONR says is the proper thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:23 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:23 AM No.. "Unfinished Business" is a very specific class of business -- defined on p. 358. Is there a rule that prevents someone from bringing up the "stealth" resolution under "New Business"? That is what RONR says is the proper thing to do. My 10th edition book does not show this on p 358 Help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:25 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:25 AM I need some to fight them with please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:37 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 01:37 AM Can a governmental body using Roberts rules of Order in the section of the agenda called unfinished business can they bring in a one item such as a unknown resolution that is not on the agenda and vote on it? No, but so far as RONR is concerned, the body could do that under New Business. Since this is a governmental body, your state's "Open Meeting Law" or "Sunshine Law" may provide otherwise, but that's beyond the scope of this forum. My 10th edition book does not show this on p 358 Help The reference was to the current edition - the 11th. I don't have my copy of the 10th anymore, but if you look in Section 41 (most of the section numbers have not changed), you should be able to find what you need. Look for the part that says "Usual Order of Business in Ordinary Societies," and under that you should find find information on the heading called Unfinished Business and General Orders (and after that, the heading called New Business). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted October 1, 2014 at 04:38 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 04:38 AM My 10th edition book does not show this on p 358 Help In the 10th edition, it's on page 346 starting on line 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted October 1, 2014 at 04:40 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 04:40 AM My 10th edition book does not show this on p 358 Help10th Ed p. 346ff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted October 1, 2014 at 06:17 AM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 06:17 AM . . . can they bring in a one item such as a unknown resolutionthat is not on the agendaand vote on it? Assuming:* that Robert's Rules of Order applies* that there is no superior rule to contradict the plain application of Robert's Rules of Order* that previous notice is not required* that the organization uses an order of business matching the recommended order of business of Robert's Rules of OrderTHEN* when the meeting reaches the class of business called "new business"* a member is free to bring business before the assembly via a main motion* even if that business has not appeared on any published agenda. So the answer is "Yes. Now:Do you have any rule which would interfere with the plain application of Robert's Rules of Order?Do you have a rule which requires that all agenda items appear in a published format prior to the meeting hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 1, 2014 at 08:58 PM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 08:58 PM Assuming:* that Robert's Rules of Order applies* that there is no superior rule to contradict the plain application of Robert's Rules of Order* that previous notice is not required* that the organization uses an order of business matching the recommended order of business of Robert's Rules of OrderTHEN* when the meeting reaches the class of business called "new business"* a member is free to bring business before the assembly via a main motion* even if that business has not appeared on any published agenda. So the answer is "Yes. Now:Do you have any rule which would interfere with the plain application of Robert's Rules of Order?Do you have a rule which requires that all agenda items appear in a published format prior to the meeting hour?Do you have any rule which would interfere with the plain application of Robert's Rules of Order? The Commissioner handbook say must use Robert's Rules of OrderDo you have a rule which requires that all agenda items appear in a published format prior to the meeting hour? there no so called rule but the board has told staff no walk on items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted October 1, 2014 at 09:37 PM Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 at 09:37 PM Can a governmental body using Roberts rules of Order in the section of the agenda called unfinished business can they bring in a one item such as a unknown resolution that is not on the agenda and vote on it? The problem here is that you are talking about some kind of public body which is probably governed by various state laws, particularly open meetings or sunshine laws that dictate agenda procedures at meetings of public bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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