Harlow Posted May 12, 2012 at 07:34 AM Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 at 07:34 AM I believe our President or EC will attempt to remove our 1st VP at the next meeting using the EC power to remove under our by-laws. How can I postpone this removal? request an investigation? There is no formal grievance at this point. This is just a power play to keep out the 1st VP out of the elections so he can keep power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted May 12, 2012 at 09:15 AM Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 at 09:15 AM If the "EC" can do it under your bylaws, there probably isn't much you can do about it. Are you a member of the EC?Reread those bylaws carefully and take a look at p.574 in RONR. Do your rules "fit" with RONR's rules on that page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted May 12, 2012 at 03:42 PM Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 at 03:42 PM Not on the EC, but am on the BD, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted May 12, 2012 at 03:48 PM Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 at 03:48 PM Not on the EC, but am on the BD,You'll have to examine your bylaws carefully to see if the EC's authority to remove an officer is exclusive (which seems doubtful presuming the officer wasn't elected by the EC in the first place). Keep in mind that the EC is usually subservient to the BD, just as the BD is subservient to the general membership. So if the BD tells the EC not to do something, it's likely the EC can't do it (even if the bylaws say they could).See also Official Interpretations 2006-12 and 2006-13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted May 12, 2012 at 04:09 PM Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 at 04:09 PM EC can only remove when a violation of the bylaws has occurred (which I am unaware of) or COE (again no evidence) or no longer qualify for membership (which is not the case). Actions are being proceeded on by anonymous accusations and the EC will not answer the BD stating the EC was in closed session. Do you have advice on how I can proceed?Request he step out of his chair,Request an investigation; can the BD or main assembly suspend all actions until an investigation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted May 12, 2012 at 06:22 PM Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 at 06:22 PM These are basically questions that have to be answered by your bylaws.Your "removal" rules are, apparently, not what RONR presents as the "default" for associations that have no rules of their own. See RONR Chapter XX. Your rules, whatever they may be, supersede RONR's rules so you are on your own...Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted May 13, 2012 at 07:17 AM Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 at 07:17 AM Well then, if Guest Edgar is right (post 4), then can the BD authoritatively tell its subordinate EC to just keep its damn hands the hell offa the VP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted May 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM EC can only remove when a violation of the bylaws has occurred (which I am unaware of) or COE (again no evidence) or no longer qualify for membership (which is not the case). Actions are being proceeded on by anonymous accusations and the EC will not answer the BD stating the EC was in closed session. ...The superior body (the board) can order the executive committee to read the minutes of the closed (EC) session to the board. See this recent thread for more comments:Well then, if Guest Edgar is right (post 4), then can the BD authoritatively tell its subordinate EC to just keep its damn hands the hell offa the VP?I think so, depending on the exact language in the bylaws, as Edgar (post 4) pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted May 13, 2012 at 01:03 PM Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 at 01:03 PM Keep in mind that the EC is usually subservient to the BD . . .. . . can the BD authoritatively tell its subordinate EC . . .Ah, yes, subordinate was the word I was looking for, not subservient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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