Guest Evette Posted November 9, 2012 at 01:37 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 01:37 PM When bylaws are changed and the members recieve the notice that they need to vote on sunch and such date - can confirm if the members have to recieve the full list of recommended bylaw changes ahead of the vote. My fear for the members is they will recieved notice that we will be voting on the bylaws but it will not reference what they are - please help!Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted November 9, 2012 at 01:52 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 01:52 PM That depends on how specific the notice requirement is. If the bylaws specify merely that notice must be given of the amendments it might be proper to note that there is a proposed amendment of Article II Section 3 (e) without giving further details. On the other hand if the bylaws require that the notice include the provision to be amended with the language to be struck be struck like this and language to be added be put in bold then that must be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted November 9, 2012 at 05:07 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 05:07 PM Henry, another question. If we have you can vote by proxy and absentee and the plan is to vote on the bylaws to have removed, how can this be done if you will not be in attendance. Do the bylaw changes for this get completed after - can we be told that we cannot do this until after the updated vote??? please help!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted November 9, 2012 at 05:14 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 05:14 PM Henry, another question. If we have you can vote by proxy and absentee and the plan is to vote on the bylaws to have removed, how can this be done if you will not be in attendance. Do the bylaw changes for this get completed after - can we be told that we cannot do this until after the updated vote??? please help!!!See FAQ #10, paying particular attention to the last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted November 9, 2012 at 05:32 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 05:32 PM Thank but.... what about the absentee votes. Here is the problem.....we are presenting bylaws changes and the changes that are being proposed is that we cannot vote by absentee or proxy (i get proxy). How can you present bylaw changes for a vote on absentee change ( proposal is no absentee vote) if the person is not there and current bylaws state that you can and you have not technically voted on it yes. How do you change something on the same day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted November 9, 2012 at 06:26 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 06:26 PM If the bylaws say that you can use proxy and absentee ballots you can do so until the bylaws are amended to say you can't. So until the ballots are counted and the Chair declares the result of the vote the question on the bylaw amendment hasn't been settled and the proxy and absentee ballots would still be permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted November 9, 2012 at 06:39 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 06:39 PM Henry, another question. . . .Oh, so that's what the 'H.' stands for. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted November 9, 2012 at 07:03 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 07:03 PM Oh, so that's what the 'H.' stands for. :-)Nope. My last name is the same as our 9th and 23rd President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted November 9, 2012 at 10:51 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at 10:51 PM Oh, so that's what the 'H.' stands for. :-)Nice try, Victor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted November 10, 2012 at 12:26 PM Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 at 12:26 PM To be honest, I'm struggling to be sure I understand your questions, what with the jumbled grammar, but here goes.Henry, another question. If we have you can vote by proxy and absentee and the plan is to vote on the bylaws to have removed, how can this be done if you will not be in attendance. Do the bylaw changes for this get completed after - can we be told that we cannot do this until after the updated vote??? please help!!!If you won't be at the meeting, but your bylaws allow absentee/proxy voting (which RONR does not), then your bylaws must include all the necessary details of how absentee/proxy voting is managed. If they don't, oh well. (RONR won't advise you) If they do, follow that process to vote on the bylaw amendment. Amendments adopted become a part of the bylaws immediately, although they might become effective later if such a proviso is included in the motion to adopt. Not sure what you mean my updated vote.How can you present bylaw changes for a vote on absentee change ( proposal is no absentee vote) if the person is not there and current bylaws state that you can and you have not technically voted on it yes.What person? Who is this "the person" you refer to? What do you mean "you have not technically voted on it yes?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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