Guest judy Posted February 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM Our Board meeting for our HOA has always had the president vote only to break a tie. Yesterday the President voted even though there was no tie. I know RONR does allow the president to vote but we have always said only for ties. If it is not in our documents can the president vote when he wants to and not at other times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted February 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM Yes.Just like any other member."We have always said" doth not a rule make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted February 15, 2013 at 01:17 PM Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 at 01:17 PM See FAQ #1 for starters. The president, if a member, always retains his right to vote or abstain. Whether he should vote is sometimes dependent on the parliamentary situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Posted February 16, 2013 at 08:16 PM Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 at 08:16 PM If he votes, does he pass the gavel in order to vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted February 16, 2013 at 08:55 PM Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 at 08:55 PM No, presuming he hasn't entered into any debate on the issue prior to the vote. If he did, he should have stepped down from the chair then, and not waited until the vote came around.And he would, normally, only cast a vote if it could effect the outcome (and he cared). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Posted February 16, 2013 at 09:14 PM Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 at 09:14 PM So,gavel in hand, not entering into debate, waiting for all the other members to vote, doing quick math he surmises his vote will make a difference, then he casts the last vote. Yes?Captcha 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted February 16, 2013 at 09:31 PM Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 at 09:31 PM No. He says "The chair is in doubt" because the Ayes and Nays seemed very close. Then, as is his right (p. 281), he says "All in favor please stand and be counted", and counts them. Same for the "nay" votes. He then announces "The vote is 13 in favor, 12 opposed, the chair votes "No" and the motion is defeated" (if that is what he wants to happen; otherwise he stops after "12 opposed", and announced that the motion carries - no need for him to vote "Yes" when the outcome has already been determined). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Posted February 16, 2013 at 09:56 PM Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 at 09:56 PM Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:52 PM Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:52 PM And he would, normally, only cast a vote if it could effect the outcome (and he cared).Or, if by ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:56 PM Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:56 PM And just to add to JD's example above (post #7), if the vote required is 2/3, and the result is 13 to 7, he can vote yes to adopt the motion. If it's 14 to 7, he can vote no to defeat it. Just covering the bases for future reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted February 18, 2013 at 08:02 PM Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 at 08:02 PM Yes.Just like any other member."We have always said" doth not a rule make.But it does make a custom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted February 18, 2013 at 09:18 PM Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 at 09:18 PM But not one that can prevent the pres. from voting if he/she is of a mind to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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