Guest Chris Posted August 5, 2018 at 10:04 PM Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 at 10:04 PM Is the moderator required to allow for discussion on a motion after it is made or may he call for a vote on the motion without discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted August 5, 2018 at 10:21 PM Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 at 10:21 PM 14 minutes ago, Guest Chris said: Is the moderator required to allow for discussion on a motion after it is made or may he call for a vote on the motion without discussion? Certain specific types of motions are non-debatable, but that is not typically the case for an ordinary main motion. Can you be more specific about the nature of the particular motion in question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Who's Coming to Dinner Posted August 6, 2018 at 04:26 PM Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 at 04:26 PM The chair must call for debate except in the case of certain procedural motions. See RONR (11th ed.), tinted pages for a list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted August 7, 2018 at 12:18 AM Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 at 12:18 AM You can also rise to a Parliamentary Inquiry and ask the moderator if, in his opinion, debate is allowed on the pending motion or not. If he says no and you think the answer is yes then you may say immediately after his response that you Appeal the decision of the chair. However, as GWCtD has stated above, there are certain motions that are by their nature undebatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted August 7, 2018 at 12:40 AM Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 at 12:40 AM 18 minutes ago, Guest Zev said: You can also rise to a Parliamentary Inquiry and ask the moderator if, in his opinion, debate is allowed on the pending motion or not. If he says no and you think the answer is yes then you may say immediately after his response that you Appeal the decision of the chair. The response to a parliamentary inquiry is not appealable. If you rise to a parliamentary inquiry and do not like the answer, the solution is (depending on the context) either to just do what you think you are allowed to do and wait to be ruled out of order, or to make a point of order and prepare for it to be found not well-taken. Then you can appeal. The response to a parliamentary inquiry is simply what the chair thinks - it has no effect on the proceedings, and it cannot be appealed because, whatever the assembly might think, the chair will go on thinking whatever the chair thinks. It seems to me that we might be missing part of the situation until the OP chimes back in. The use of the term "moderator" makes me think this is something other than an assembly generally following RONR. It might be one of those assemblies that talks endlessly, then makes a motion. The answer will remain the same, with the caveat that the practice is also mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted August 7, 2018 at 06:08 AM Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 at 06:08 AM 5 hours ago, Guest Zev said: You can also rise to a Parliamentary Inquiry and ask the moderator if, in his opinion, debate is allowed on the pending motion or not. If he says no and you think the answer is yes then you may say immediately after his response that you Appeal the decision of the chair. However, as GWCtD has stated above, there are certain motions that are by their nature undebatable. Opinions cannot be appealed. Only rulings can be. As you noted correctly, a Parliamentary Inquiry is a solicitation of the chair's opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted August 7, 2018 at 11:54 PM Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 at 11:54 PM A momentary lapse of reason. Thank you for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted August 8, 2018 at 01:14 AM Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 at 01:14 AM Ah yes. I can remember a day when my lapses of reason were momentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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