Johanna Posted June 22, 2021 at 03:46 AM Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 at 03:46 AM Section 48.2: In the ordinary society ..... what was DONE .... and not what was SAID ....... Our PTA has just elected new Executive Committee Members, resulting a solid block of 4 like-minded members with certain agenda (that is why they ran) in the 8-members EC. One of the EC members is the school principal who, historically, abstains from voting. One of the member is either abstain or vote with the majority (in this case the block of 4). With the way the 48.2 is written, any objections by the minority will never be recorded. Any reasoning for the dissenting votes will never be known to the general membership. This does not seem right. Please advise. PS: 48.3 will not help either because the 4-person block will not adopt any special rule of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted June 22, 2021 at 04:28 AM Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 at 04:28 AM 38 minutes ago, Johanna said: any objections by the minority will never be recorded. Any reasoning for the dissenting votes will never be known to the general membership. That is not the purpose of minutes. You are free to communicate your thoughts to the membership, but the minutes are not the appropriate tool to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted June 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM 8 hours ago, Johanna said: With the way the 48.2 is written, any objections by the minority will never be recorded. Any reasoning for the dissenting votes will never be known to the general membership. It doesn't say that. It says those things aren't in the minutes. People are free to explain their votes in other contexts. If they want their opposition noted, they can move for a roll call vote; if the majority disagrees, they won't get it, of course. There is no reason, particularly where people represent a constituency, for the minutes to be the only communication from elected officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanna Posted July 1, 2021 at 11:58 PM Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 at 11:58 PM Unfortunately dissent will not be known as in the past, general membership meeting never was really involved about any of the nitty-gritty of the EC/EB. Parents just want to know if their kids' programs running, if historic school-wide events running, etc. In any case, it is what it is. The parents did vote even though only less than 20% did. So each of us technically was "supported" by less than 10% of the members and the votes separating the 2 groups are only between 2-10 votes. Thank you all. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted July 2, 2021 at 12:20 AM Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 at 12:20 AM On 6/21/2021 at 11:46 PM, Johanna said: With the way the 48.2 is written, any objections by the minority will never be recorded. That's true, but if these "objections" are in the form of a Point of Order, then they would be included, however that's for objections to a violation of the rules, not just an objection to a particular policy position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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