Tomm Posted November 13, 2022 at 10:06 PM Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 at 10:06 PM Are there any restrictions, prohibitions or special procedures for a board member ask a question directly to their parliamentarian or do all inquiries have to go thru the Chair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted November 14, 2022 at 01:43 PM Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 at 01:43 PM On 11/13/2022 at 4:06 PM, Tomm said: Are there any restrictions, prohibitions or special procedures for a board member ask a question directly to their parliamentarian or do all inquiries have to go thru the Chair? All inquiries go through the chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicia Percell, PRP Posted November 14, 2022 at 11:52 PM Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 at 11:52 PM Agree that all inquiries go through the chair, though see RONR (12th ed.) 33:6 that the chair can redirect requests for information (not related to parliamentary procedure) to another officer or member. The role of a parliamentarian can be found beginning at RONR (12th ed.) 47:46, but especially see 47:52 which says: "Only on the most involved matters should the parliamentarian actually be called upon to speak to the assembly; and the practice should be avoided if at all possible." Direct the parliamentary inquiry through the chair, who can consult with the parliamentarian as needed. It's not never, but rarely would the parliamentarian directly give the answer instead of the chair answering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted November 15, 2022 at 02:32 AM Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 at 02:32 AM How about 47:50, "During a meeting the work of the parliamentarian should be limited to giving advise to the chair and, when requested, to any other member." I assume this would be a request directly from a member to the parliamentarian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted November 15, 2022 at 02:42 AM Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 at 02:42 AM (edited) On 11/14/2022 at 8:32 PM, Tomm said: How about 47:50, "During a meeting the work of the parliamentarian should be limited to giving advise to the chair and, when requested, to any other member." I assume this would be a request directly from a member to the parliamentarian? No. The words "when requested" in this context refers to a request from the chair. Edited November 15, 2022 at 02:42 AM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted November 15, 2022 at 03:55 AM Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 at 03:55 AM On 11/14/2022 at 8:42 PM, Josh Martin said: No. The words "when requested" in this context refers to a request from the chair. I disagree. At best, the quoted provision in RONR is ambiguous. I interpret it to mean that the parliamentarian MAY respond to a request for information from a member but that the request should be made through the chair, just as with other requests for information. I certainly do not read the provision as being a rule absolutely prohibiting the parliamentarian from responding to a request from a member. If anything, it is more of a "normally should not" rule, not an ironclad "He cannot" rule. In fact, as Ms. Percell pointed out, 47:52 specifically permits the parliamentarian to address the assembly, although it should be only "on the most involved matters". So, the parliamentarian clearly may address the assembly in response to a question from a member directed through the chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted November 15, 2022 at 06:05 AM Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 at 06:05 AM On 11/14/2022 at 10:55 PM, Richard Brown said: the parliamentarian clearly may address the assembly in response to a question from a member directed through the chair But only if directed to do so by the chair. The parliamentarian cannot decide alone to answer the question directly. Note @Tomm that this applies during the meeting, and not during recesses or adjournments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted November 15, 2022 at 12:03 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 at 12:03 PM (edited) On 11/14/2022 at 9:55 PM, Richard Brown said: I disagree. At best, the quoted provision in RONR is ambiguous. I interpret it to mean that the parliamentarian MAY respond to a request for information from a member but that the request should be made through the chair, just as with other requests for information. I certainly do not read the provision as being a rule absolutely prohibiting the parliamentarian from responding to a request from a member. If anything, it is more of a "normally should not" rule, not an ironclad "He cannot" rule. In fact, as Ms. Percell pointed out, 47:52 specifically permits the parliamentarian to address the assembly, although it should be only "on the most involved matters". So, the parliamentarian clearly may address the assembly in response to a question from a member directed through the chair. Mr. Brown, the rule in question states "During a meeting the work of the parliamentarian should be limited to giving advise to the chair and, when requested, to any other member." While the question may well be initiated by a member of the assembly, my understanding is that the question is responded to by the chair, not the parliamentarian, unless the chair requests that the parliamentarian respond to the question. As a consequence, it seems to me it is ultimately correct that the parliamentarian, during a meeting, does not directly respond to a member's question unless requested to do so by the chair. As I understand the facts, Tomm is looking for some mechanism for the parliamentarian (not the chair) to bypass the chair and to have the parliamentarian answer the question directly, notwithstanding the chair's wishes. During a meeting, there is no mechanism for this. I agree with Dr. Kapur that outside of a meeting (whether during a recess or otherwise), there is much greater flexibility on this matter. Edited November 15, 2022 at 12:04 PM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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