Tabling a motion

[Tomm]

Should or could a tabled motion be put on the next meetings agenda or should it not be, and wait to see if it someone makes the motion to take it from the table?

[Dan Honemann]

On 9/28/2023 at 2:33 PM, Tomm said:

Should or could a tabled motion be put on the next meetings agenda or should it not be, and wait to see if it someone makes the motion to take it from the table?

The latter.

[Tomm]

On 9/28/2023 at 12:00 PM, Dan Honemann said:

The latter.

Okay, the proper thing to do is to not place it on the agenda and if the motion isn't taken from the table at the next meeting it dies.

What happens if it's taken from the table and the original motion required previous notice?

It now comes before the assembly for a vote without previous notice. Does that have any effect on how the motion is now handled or does the previous notice from the previous meeting satisfy that requirement?

[Dan Honemann]

On 9/29/2023 at 11:30 AM, Tomm said:

Okay, the proper thing to do is to not place it on the agenda and if the motion isn't taken from the table at the next meeting it dies.

What happens if it's taken from the table and the original motion required previous notice?

It now comes before the assembly for a vote without previous notice. Does that have any effect on how the motion is now handled or does the previous notice from the previous meeting satisfy that requirement?

The latter.

[Gary Novosielski]

On 9/29/2023 at 11:30 AM, Tomm said:

Okay, the proper thing to do is to not place it on the agenda and if the motion isn't taken from the table at the next meeting it dies.

The proper thing to have done would have been to use the proper motion, to Postpone Definitely rather than using the motion to Lay on the Table, if the intent is to postpone consideration to the next meeting.  It is not in order to use it for that purpose, and the chair should have so ruled.  When a motion is properly postponed, it will come up automatically at the next meeting without a motion to take it up.

[Atul Kapur]

I didn't read anything in the OP to suggest that the motion was improperly laid on the table or that the intent was to postpone definitely to the next meeting.

But, now that the topic of postpone definitely has been raised: the notice given originally is adequate for the postponed motion when it is taken up at the next meeting.

[Tomm]

On 9/29/2023 at 10:27 AM, Atul Kapur said:

the motion was improperly laid on the table

Yes.

[Gary Novosielski]

On 9/29/2023 at 1:27 PM, Atul Kapur said:

I didn't read anything in the OP to suggest that the motion was improperly laid on the table or that the intent was to postpone definitely to the next meeting.

But, now that the topic of postpone definitely has been raised: the notice given originally is adequate for the postponed motion when it is taken up at the next meeting.

I'm just playing the odds that suggest that the motion to Lay on the Table is rarely in order in ordinary societies.  The likelihood that any given trip to the table is a proper one is, at best, minimal.  Add to that the fact that this motion was not taken from the table at the original meeting, and ended up still on the table at the next meeting, which reduces that estimate even further.

But should it nevertheless be true that this was a proper use of Lay on the Table, and even if it was not, I concur fully with @Dan Honemann's replies.

Edited September 29, 2023 at 06:37 PM by Gary Novosielski