Non-Voting President Voted, What Do We Do Now?

[metdc1978]

Our organizations new officers have not been elected yet (bylaws state first meeting in August) but new members start first meeting in July. According to our bylaws even though our current seated president's membership ended she (and all officers whose terms have ended) is to remain in office but with no voting privileges until our new officers are elected.

During our last meeting their was a motion that ended in a tie. The president voted to break the tie which ended up defeating the motion. The news of our decision has already been told to the other parties. But because the president was not supposed to vote how do we go about fixing this problem. Can we do a motion to rescind based on her ineligibility to vote during the time when we would approve the minutes for that meeting? Do we put this under old business or is there another way we are supposed to handle this situation. Also can the president chose not to entertain this motion?

[George Mervosh]

A tie vote defeats the motion in and of itself regardless of her vote. Time to move on.

[David A Foulkes]

Our organizations new officers have not been elected yet (bylaws state first meeting in August) but new members start first meeting in July. According to our bylaws even though our current seated president's membership ended she (and all officers whose terms have ended) is to remain in office but with no voting privileges until our new officers are elected.

During our last meeting their was a motion that ended in a tie. The president voted to break the tie which ended up defeating the motion. The news of our decision has already been told to the other parties. But because the president was not supposed to vote how do we go about fixing this problem. Can we do a motion to rescind based on her ineligibility to vote during the time when we would approve the minutes for that meeting? Do we put this under old business or is there another way we are supposed to handle this situation. Also can the president chose not to entertain this motion?

George has it right of course, but - - for my two cents, in the case of a tie, the Chair (assuming a voting President) may vote in the affirmative to break the tie and adopt the motion. If your non-voting President voted in the negative, despite not being vote-worthy, her vote did not affect the result as it was (tie defeats).

But isn't someone keeping tabs on all this? Who gets to vote, who doesn't, and what's with the President's term having ended before elections next month, and yet she's still the President? Verrrrry strange.

[Josh Martin]

Our organizations new officers have not been elected yet (bylaws state first meeting in August) but new members start first meeting in July. According to our bylaws even though our current seated president's membership ended she (and all officers whose terms have ended) is to remain in office but with no voting privileges until our new officers are elected.

During our last meeting their was a motion that ended in a tie. The president voted to break the tie which ended up defeating the motion. The news of our decision has already been told to the other parties. But because the president was not supposed to vote how do we go about fixing this problem. Can we do a motion to rescind based on her ineligibility to vote during the time when we would approve the minutes for that meeting? Do we put this under old business or is there another way we are supposed to handle this situation. Also can the president chose not to entertain this motion?

There is no problem to fix. The President's vote did not affect the result, as a tie vote defeats the motion. You also cannot rescind a motion which has been defeated - that is for adopted motions. If you wish, someone may renew the motion (make it again as if it had never been made). This would be under New Business, not Unfinished Business (there is no "Old Business") and certainly not during the approval of the minutes. The President may not refuse to entertain the motion, and if he attempts to do so, a Point of Order should be raised, and an appeal if necessary. A majority vote in the negative overturns the chair's ruling on a Point of Order.