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George Mervosh

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  1. I am very sorry to hear about John's passing. Aside from his great many contributions here and in NAP and AIP that we benefited from, he was just a really nice man to talk to when I would see him at NAP Conventions and will be missed by us all.
  2. No. Under the rules in RONR, a majority of the votes cast is required to elect someone to office. If that's not achieved on the first ballot be prepared to re-ballot, perhaps multiple times, until someone does reach that threshold.
  3. The 2FP members here find this to be terrible advice.
  4. There are no restrictions on participation on other boards and see https://www.robertsrules.com/faq.html#9
  5. If the vote was not counted: "Ms. Y moved to approve ______________. The motion was adopted." If the vote was counted: "Ms. Y moved to approve ______________. There were 8 votes in favor and 2 opposed and the motion was adopted." The fact that the motion was not seconded is not recorded and how Ms. A and Ms. B is not recorded at all. The only time to record how the members voted is when a vote is taken by roll call. See §48. MINUTES AND REPORTS OF OFFICERS beginning on p. 468 in RONR (11th ed.).
  6. Okay, I understand now what you were referring to but in the original post it mentions recording all 7 names and their votes, and Mr. Martin's reply does seem to endorse that it's okay to do so, which is why I agree with Mr. Elsman's response at the time he made it. They didn't vote by roll call but they want the minutes to basically show that they did which I don't think is proper. Whether recording 3 member's dissenting votes is a stretch for a request for any other privilege I'm not sure about, but it seems like it at first blush. But I do respectfully disagree that Mr. Elsman's response was irrelevant.
  7. I don't believe that. If I read those minutes and didn't have any details and I saw all 7 member's votes recorded for a particular motion I would believe they voted by roll call. But they didn't. This doesn't seem like some garden variety request to have a member's dissenting vote recorded.
  8. Form. See RONR (11th ed.), pp. 105-110 RONR makes no such distinction.
  9. No, you continue to vote until someone receives a majority of the votes cast. Make sure there are write-in spaces on the ballot and consider re-opening nominations prior to the next round of balloting.
  10. I find the removal from the ballot part the most troubling since I can't find any authority for it in RONR.
  11. "When the object is to adopt a motion without debate or amendment, the form is: MEMBER A (obtaining the floor): I move to suspend the rules and adopt [or "agree to"] the following resolution: "Resolved, That ..." (Second.) If such a motion does not receive the required two-thirds vote, the main motion can be taken up only in the normal way. " RONR (11th ed.), pp. 266-67
  12. I have to confess that I thought the main motion is taken up in the normal way, when the book actually says it "can be taken up only in the normal way". Thanks for the clarification.
  13. "A member has no right to "explain his vote" during voting, which would be the same as debate at such a time. " RONR (11th ed.), p. 408 If Robert's Rules governs this matter, and the Council wishes to continue their custom of allowing an explanation they should codify it by rule, otherwise the rule in RONR applies.
  14. "A two-thirds vote—when the term is unqualified—means at least two thirds of the votes cast by persons entitled to vote, excluding blanks or abstentions, at a regular or properly called meeting." RONR (11th ed.), p. 401
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