follow up question regarding a motion to censure

[gregory]

When I make my motion to censure our Chair. Is it best to include the verbiage "by secret ballot" in the original motion to censure... or should I include that in a amendment to a motion?

[Larry Cisar]

Neither. It is a separate motion that gets decided first. If it is in the motion, then you are ordering a ballot vote after people have voted which is nonsense.

[Kim Goldsworthy]

Gregory - See your other thread, too.

See RONR page 642.

Remedies Against Misconduct or

Dereliction of Duty in Office

If the chair at a meeting ignores a motion apparently

made and seconded in good faith, and neither states the

question on the motion nor rules it out of order, the maker

of the motion should raise a Point of Order (23) covering

the case, and from the chair’s decision he can Appeal (24).

If the chair also ignores the point of order, the member can

repeat the motion; and if it is seconded and the chair still

ignores it, the maker of the motion can himself put it to a

vote standing in his place. If the regular presiding officer of

an organized society culpably fails to perform the duties of

the chair properly in a meeting, a motion can also be made

to censure him, which can be put to a vote by the maker of

the motion as just explained, if necessary (see also p. 436).

If the offending occupant of the chair is not the regular pre-

siding officer of a society, a motion can be made to “declare

the chair vacant and proceed to elect a new chairman.”

Such a motion is a question of privilege affecting the as-

sembly (19).

[Gary Novosielski]

Gregory - See your other thread, too.

See RONR page 642.

I think that's my favorite section of The Book. It would also make a great climactic movie scene. I hope I get to see it in practice one day.

[Tim Wynn]

When I make my motion to censure our Chair. Is it best to include the verbiage "by secret ballot" in the original motion to censure... or should I include that in a amendment to a motion?

During the consideration of this motion, the person being censured should not be presiding. See RONR(10th ed.), p. 436, l. 4-11.

[Tim Wynn]

I think that's my favorite section of The Book. It would also make a great climactic movie scene. I hope I get to see it in practice one day.

I've recently advised members on how to oust a presiding officer. I doubt they'll put it to use, though. They're "afraid of retribution."