Tim Wynn Posted November 7, 2010 at 04:18 PM Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 at 04:18 PM Actually, I think there was a quorum's worth of members there, once Sky-Pilot was unwillingly sucked in:That's 4 out of the 6 board members, which is 2/3 (the quorum described in the quoted bylaws).However, just to be clear, I'm certainly not making the claim that this was a valid meeting, just because 4 board members were in the room together.A quorum for eating pizza, I like it. I suspect the quorum for casual dining might be slightly fewer than the regular one, though.Did this organization's bylaws actually say, "Two-thirds of the vote will be considered the majority," or is there something wrong with my screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sky Pilot Posted November 7, 2010 at 06:03 PM Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 at 06:03 PM A quorum for eating pizza, I like it. I suspect the quorum for casual dining might be slightly fewer than the regular one, though.Did this organization's bylaws actually say, "Two-thirds of the vote will be considered the majority," or is there something wrong with my screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sky Pilot Posted November 7, 2010 at 06:15 PM Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 at 06:15 PM Yes, "A quorumwill consist of 2/3’s of the Board."And in another place it says, "These bylaws may be changed or amended by a vote of current* members at an open meeting.Two-thirds of the vote will be considered the majority.This may be unusual, but according to our Charter there are problems with the way that this meeting was conducted. You see the Treasurers job description has nothing to do with leading the group or the board as a body. His purview is only connected to the issues involving money. Yet, he has basically enacted himself King and is making decrees from his throne. "This is a Board meeting." as one example. This person has announced that he is running for his position again. Our next meeting is December 14th. All the candidates will have some time to speak at that meeting. Interesting note, last January at the voting meeting. He (the Treasurer in charge again) allowed me only 2 minutes to share my vision and plans with the club. I did no campagning and won by 4 votes over his chosen candidate. Oh, and the Facilities Coordinator they hustled into office at this 'non' Board meeting was the same guy that lost in January. I'm typing up a letter to the general membership to inform them of the details of this supposed Board meeting. I'm supporting his opponant for the office of Treasurer. Are you surprised?Sky Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted November 9, 2010 at 04:26 AM Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 at 04:26 AM And in another place it says, "...Two-thirds of the vote will be considered the majority.["]This may be unusual....It's not unusual, it's nonsensical. It's a little bit like saying "67¢ shall be considered a half-dollar." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sky Pilot Posted November 9, 2010 at 05:31 AM Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 at 05:31 AM It's not unusual, it's nonsensical. It's a little bit like saying "67¢ shall be considered a half-dollar."Sorry, I'm not a Roberts expert. What's wrong with 2/3 of the whatever being a majority?Sky Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted November 9, 2010 at 06:09 AM Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 at 06:09 AM What's wrong with 2/3 of the whatever being a majority?A majority means "more than half." So 2/3 is certainly a majority, but your original wording, which says "Two-thirds of the vote will be considered the majority," sounds quite odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted November 9, 2010 at 10:30 AM Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 at 10:30 AM "A quorum will consist of 2/3’s of the Board."Geez, Louise! That's barely English. That's not even a legitimate abbreviation!And in another place it says, "These bylaws may be changed or amended by a vote of current* members at an open meeting.""Two-thirds of the vote will be considered the majority.""Two-thirds of the vote will be considered the majority."Analogy #1: That is like saying, "A ratio of 2:1 equals 50.1%".Analogy #2: That is like saying, "67% of the vote is more than half." - which prompts the question, "Then what about 60%?" - Isn't everything from 50.001% to 100% likewise?Ye gods! Whoever drafted your bylaws needs remedial English!And remedial Arithmetic, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sky Pilot Posted November 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM Geez, Louise! That's barely English. That's not even a legitimate abbreviation!"Two-thirds of the vote will be considered the majority."Analogy #1: That is like saying, "A ratio of 2:1 equals 50.1%".Analogy #2: That is like saying, "67% of the vote is more than half." - which prompts the question, "Then what about 60%?" - Isn't everything from 50.001% to 100% likewise?Ye gods! Whoever drafted your bylaws needs remedial English!And remedial Arithmetic, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kudos Posted November 9, 2010 at 10:54 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 at 10:54 PM Okay, we've established that you guys are cute and smart. Kudos!Now, I'm still trying to figure out what to do about all of this...Sky Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 9, 2010 at 11:25 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 at 11:25 PM Okay, we've established that you guys are cute and smart. Sky PilotAs a representative of each category mentioned, I'd like to say, "Thank you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted November 9, 2010 at 11:37 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 at 11:37 PM Kudos!From Rigel VII?(Note that the Rigellian edition of RONR is virtually identical to the Terrestrial edition.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted November 10, 2010 at 12:31 AM Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 at 12:31 AM Okay, we've established that you guys are cute and smart. Kudos!Now, I'm still trying to figure out what to do about all of this...Sky PilotI believe Mr. Martin's posts contained some suggestions on how to proceed. Please feel free to ask further questions. Whether those suggestions can be successfully implemented in your organization will depend on some factors beyond the bounds of RONR -- you have to hope that a majority of the members care about the rules, and will vote to uphold the rules.From Rigel VII?(Note that the Rigellian edition of RONR is virtually identical to the Terrestrial edition.)I'm fairly certain that was Kodos, not Kudos, but it's been a long time since I saw any of the old Star Trek episodes.Not that any of this helps Sky Pilot very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted November 10, 2010 at 12:38 AM Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 at 12:38 AM I'm fairly certain that was Kodos, not Kudos, but it's been a long time since I saw any of the old Star Trek episodes.I was actually thinking of the slobbering aliens from The Simpsons but you're right, the names first appeared on Star Trek.Now if we can only find out what Kudos did with, or to, Sky Pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 10, 2010 at 01:11 AM Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 at 01:11 AM I was actually thinking of the slobbering aliens from The Simpsons but you're right, the names first appeared on Star Trek.I believe Kodos' sibling's name was Kang. (That should help Sky Pilot.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted November 10, 2010 at 01:16 AM Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 at 01:16 AM I believe Kodos' sibling's name was Kang. (That should help Sky Pilot.)Probably not. As was noted the question about what can be done was answered earlier in the thread and whether Sky Pilot can get the votes to address the issues is something Sky Pilot will need to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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