Guest Patti Simmons Posted January 2, 2011 at 06:48 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 at 06:48 PM When a president resigns from a council as a member and as its president, and then prior to the effective date of the resignation decides he does not want to resign and submits a letter stating so, what is the correct procedure for this dilemma? Who chairs the next meeting if it is after the original date of the resignation? The president or the vice president? Additionally, if the council is interested in ousting the member as member and president, can this item be brought to the front of the agenda? I am sure this is possible but what is the correct procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:01 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:01 PM When a president resigns from a council as a member and as its president, and then prior to the effective date of the resignation decides he does not want to resign and submits a letter stating so, what is the correct procedure for this dilemma?Q. Has the resignation been officially accepted?• If not officially acknowledged by the organization, that is, if the only evidence is an oral statement, or a written letter, by your president, and the organization itself has NOT adopted a motion akin to "That the resignation of President ____ be accepted," then there never was a real resignation, and your president never lost anything.• If the organization has already adopted a motion of official acceptance, then things get complicated. -- Timing becomes a confounding variable. -- He isn't out of office yet. He isn't a former member yet.Who chairs the next meeting if it is after the original date of the resignation?The president or the vice president? "After"?• If the resignation was officially accepted, then you will have to pick a chairman pro tem, for that meeting, until the vacancy is filled.• If the resignation was NOT officially accepted, then things get murky. Your president never left office. Your president never lost his membership.Additionally, if the council is interested in ousting the member as member and president, can this item be brought to the front of the agenda? Murky. See above for the reasons why.• If he's out, then he's really out.• If he never was out, then there is nothing to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert B Fish Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:03 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:03 PM When a president resigns from a council as a member and as its president, and then prior to the effective date of the resignation decides he does not want to resign and submits a letter stating so, what is the correct procedure for this dilemma? Who chairs the next meeting if it is after the original date of the resignation? The president or the vice president? Additionally, if the council is interested in ousting the member as member and president, can this item be brought to the front of the agenda? I am sure this is possible but what is the correct procedure.A resignation does not become effective until it has been accepted by the assembly (or other body empowered to accept resignations). A resignation may be withdrawn prior to it being accepted and, if that occurs, the assembly then has no resignation upon which to act.So, answering your post, the chairman continues in office and the item cannot be raised for vote.If the assembly is interested in ousting the chairman and he/she does not resign, see FAQ#20-Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:03 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:03 PM When a president resigns from a council as a member and as its president, and then prior to the effective date of the resignation decides he does not want to resign and submits a letter stating so, what is the correct procedure for this dilemma? Who chairs the next meeting if it is after the original date of the resignation? The president or the vice president? Additionally, if the council is interested in ousting the member as member and president, can this item be brought to the front of the agenda? I am sure this is possible but what is the correct procedure.According to the rules in RONR, there is no dilemma. If his resignation was accepted then he may no longer unilaterally withdraw it. His resignation becomes effective on schedule. If it was never accepted, then he may withdraw (not rescind) the resignation, and he is still a member and still president.For information on how to oust a president, see FAQ #20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patti Simmons Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:06 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:06 PM But, looking at the agenda, how does a member make a motion to present an item to be placed on the agenda if it is not originally on the agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:09 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:09 PM But, looking at the agenda, how does a member make a motion to present an item to be placed on the agenda if it is not originally on the agenda?See FAQ #14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:12 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 at 07:12 PM See FAQ #14.Or make a motion during "New Business" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted January 2, 2011 at 09:37 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 at 09:37 PM Additionally, if the president's resignation is acted upon and accepted by the membership, RONR states the VP now becomes the President and would chair subsequent meetings. You would then have a vacancy in the office of VP. Your bylaws or other governing documents may say otherwise, and override RONR, so you'd want to check those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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