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Rob Elsman

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  1. iOS machines have a keyboard setting that lets you set the time interval before a key repeats. My guess is that your interval is set too short, which causes the machine to read two presses of the Return key when you only intend one.
  2. Yes, I agree with Mr. Honemann that the two can constitute a committee and prepare sets of minutes. In larger boards, though, the board should formally task a committee to do this.
  3. Some things should be noted: The first question to be decided is whether to make any endorsement at all, since, as the poster, noted, no endorsement is an option. This is a main motion of the "yes/no" kind. It is an option to include in this motion a blank for the number of endorsements to be made. The second main motion is conditional upon the adoption of the first motion. The second motion is a main motion that contains one or more blanks to be filled with names. If the number of endorsements was decided in the first motion, the number of blanks in the second motion will be the number determined in the first motion; otherwise, the number of blanks can be determined through the normal procedures for amending a main motion. This second motion does, indeed, follow the rules for elections if, as I suspect, the blanks are to be filled by ballot; otherwise, the rules for filling blanks apply.
  4. I think it is necessary to know how many blanks there are to fill before commencement of the voting, since the number of blanks will determine how many votes each member may cast. Put another way, the exact form of the main motion must be known before the assembly can vote on it.
  5. The main motion is amendable to insert another blank, if desired, in which case, the rules for selecting more than one candidate apply.
  6. I remember the day when someone used to reach out over the Internet and paddle those who strayed beyond the scope of this forum. Just saying. 😁
  7. I have the same wondering as Mr. Kapur. If he is guessing correctly, the motion to adopt the agenda is an amendable and debatable main motion; so, as the poster suggests, a subsidiary motion to Amend can be applied to it, and any such motion would be amendable and debatable.
  8. I vote for the last. There is a whole chapter devoted to nominations and elections. I suggest all of you memorize it word-for-word and stick to it like glue. See RONR (11th ed.), pp. 430ff.
  9. Mr. Kapur, it is standard English to use the masculine forms of personal adjectives and pronouns when both genders are intended. Clearly, the rule is that officers of both genders do not make motions arising from their reports; but, that does not mean that the underlying purpose of the rule is not suspect of having been colored by the accepted female gender roles of General Robert's day, which are significantly different than the roles of women today.
  10. The rule is suspect. It may well be a relic of another era when a female officer, such as a secretary or treasurer, making a motion arising from a recommendation in her report would be viewed as too forward or impolitely out of her place in a male-dominated society. I see no further need for the rule. Both for the sake of streamlining the rules generally and eliminating suspect, sexist rules, I recommend that the rule concerning the making of motions arising from committees' reports be also followed with respect to the making of motions arising from officers' reports.
  11. Where in RONR (11th ed.) does it say that any member may submit proposed minutes if the secretary fails to do so? I thought the rule was that the secretary could submit multiple sets of minutes from previous meetings that would be read and approved in the order that the meetings occurred. RONR (11th ed.), p. 354. As to the possibility that there may be dereliction of duty by the secretary, see the chapter on disciplinary procedures in RONR (11th ed.), pp. 643ff.
  12. If the effects of the possible changes to sections 4, 5, and 6 go beyond the noticed name change in section 3, the subsidiary motions to Amend are not in order, because the main motion would not be in order if they were adopted. RONR (11th ed.), p. 138.
  13. I, too, am sorry to hear of his passing. He was a regular contributor on this forum from whom I learned a great deal.
  14. No rule in RONR requires a motion that lies on the table to be included in an agenda.
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