Guest WHL Posted April 14, 2011 at 07:11 PM Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 at 07:11 PM Our volunteer Parliamentarian has expressed a position on a bylaws resolution that would affect his position as a board member in the future and has vowed publicly to try to table this convention resolution at our forthcoming convention.Is he barred from making a ruling on the resolution, as it directly affects him adversely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted April 14, 2011 at 07:26 PM Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 at 07:26 PM Our volunteer Parliamentarian has expressed a position on a bylaws resolution that would affect his position as a board member in the future and has vowed publicly to try to table this convention resolution at our forthcoming convention.Is he barred from making a ruling on the resolution, as it directly affects him adversely.First, the parliamentarian does not make rulings. That authority belongs to the presiding officer and the job of the parliamentarian is to advise the presiding officer on parliamentary procedure. Second, is/will the parliamentarian be a member of the convention or merely an adviser (check the bylaws and don't take the parliamentarian or presiding officer's word for it-experience has shown me that often what they think is the case is not actually the case)?If the parliamentarian is not a member of the convention then he has no right to speak on the amendment or any other question and should stick to his job which is to advise the presiding officer. If the parliamentarian is a member of the convention he should not be speaking on any question, making motions, or voting except for any votes taken by ballot (RONR p. 451). Also RONR p. 451 says something very pertinent to this situation:If a member feels that he cannot properly forego these rights in order to serve as parliamentarian, he should not accept that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted April 14, 2011 at 09:21 PM Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 at 09:21 PM If the parliamentarian is not a member of the convention then he has no right to speak on the amendment or any other question and should stick to his job which is to advise the presiding officer. If the parliamentarian is a member of the convention he should not be speaking on any question, making motions, or voting except for any votes taken by ballot (RONR p. 451). Also RONR p. 451 says something very pertinent to this situation:If a member feels that he cannot properly forego these rights in order to serve as parliamentarian, he should not accept that position.C'mon, Chris, did you have to quote the book verbatim, including the extra "e" in the word "forgo"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted April 14, 2011 at 09:32 PM Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 at 09:32 PM C'mon, Chris, did you have to quote the book verbatim, including the extra "e" in the word "forgo"?That's not an extra "e", it's the only "e". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 15, 2011 at 01:24 AM Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 at 01:24 AM Our volunteer Parliamentarian has expressed a position on a bylaws resolution that would affect his position as a board member in the future and has vowed publicly to try to table this convention resolution at our forthcoming convention.Is he barred from making a ruling on the resolution, as it directly affects him adversely.Parliamentarians are always barred from ever "ruling" on any resolutions at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 15, 2011 at 01:28 AM Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 at 01:28 AM C'mon, Chris, did you have to quote the book verbatim, including the extra "e" in the word "forgo"?Are you saying the "e" was incorrect in the forgoing quotation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted April 15, 2011 at 01:36 AM Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 at 01:36 AM Are you saying the "e" was incorrect in the forgoing quotation?Our forefathers are turning over in their graves.All fore of them. And fore what? Extra ease?Please pass the potatoe.(The potatoe is past.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdave Posted April 17, 2011 at 01:10 PM Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 at 01:10 PM Our forefathers are turning over in their graves.All fore of them. And fore what? Extra ease?Please pass the potatoe.(The potatoe is past.)ROTFLMAO(As they say in the new English language.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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