Guest Eileen Beighley Posted April 22, 2011 at 03:36 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 03:36 PM 4 years ago a local pastor submitted his resigantion. The Board after some disccusion and considering his health put his letter aside to see if he would recover and be able to return to his position. Since then, the temporay pastor has continued his work and has move on. About 2 weeks ago a Board meeting was call with no agenda. Once I got there the meetings purpose was to vote on the letter of resination. I inquired if the pastor had been contacted , I was told that there was no need and that fact the the resignation was put on hold was out of order. The Board call to vote and excepted the pastors 4 year old resignation. I have inquired since and the pastor was never told of this meeting. I would love to hear some feedback????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tctheatc Posted April 22, 2011 at 04:47 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 04:47 PM I have inquired since and the pastor was never told of this meetingWhat's he been doing for four years?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 22, 2011 at 05:47 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 05:47 PM About 2 weeks ago a Board meeting was call with no agenda. Once I got there the meetings purpose was to vote on the letter of resination. If this was a special (as opposed to regular) meeting, then no business may be transacted that does not confirm to the purpose described in the call of the meeting. If there was no purpose stated, then no formal action can be taken at the meeting, and anything decided there is null and void, unless ratified by the board at a future, properly called, meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted April 22, 2011 at 05:57 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 05:57 PM If I were a friend of the pastor, I'd ask him to send a letter withdrawing it, and fast........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eileenqb Posted April 22, 2011 at 06:33 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 06:33 PM What's he been doing for four years??LOng recovery from illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eileenqb Posted April 22, 2011 at 06:34 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 06:34 PM If I were a friend of the pastor, I'd ask him to send a letter withdrawing it, and fast........Once he withdraws his resignation...whats happens next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tctheatc Posted April 22, 2011 at 06:44 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 06:44 PM Depends on what your bylaws say. A resignation, which is a request to be excused from duty, must be accepted. But it's not uncommon for church bylaws to state that the pastoral covenant can be terminated by either party with notice. Anything like that in yours? If so, it may govern. If RONR governs, it might not be too late, as Gary and George point out. The acceptance may be invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eileenqb Posted April 22, 2011 at 07:03 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 07:03 PM Depends on what your bylaws say. A resignation, which is a request to be excused from duty, must be accepted. But it's not uncommon for church bylaws to state that the pastoral covenant can be terminated by either party with notice. Anything like that in yours? If so, it may govern. If RONR governs, it might not be too late, as Gary and George point out. The acceptance may be invalid.Nothing stated in bylaws. Well, you stated that a resignation requesting to be excused from duty must be accepted. This happened 4 years ago and that request was put on hold. How does that effort todays situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 22, 2011 at 07:06 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 07:06 PM Once he withdraws his resignation...whats happens next?Until a resignation is duly accepted (which it sounds like this one was not) it can be withdrawn, in which case there is no resignation to accept any more. So, nothing happens. All is as it was.See FAQ #18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted April 22, 2011 at 10:40 PM Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 at 10:40 PM A resignation, which is a request to be excused from duty, must be accepted.I'm afraid that's a tad misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tctheatc Posted April 23, 2011 at 12:20 AM Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 at 12:20 AM sorry!!! I was looking at p279 ll 10-16.But I suppose "tad" is progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 23, 2011 at 12:38 AM Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 at 12:38 AM I was looking at p. 279, ll. 10-16.But I suppose "tad" is progress?Well, the only thing misleading about it would be cured by adding the words "or rejected"But we're told in principles of interpretation that the right to approve always implies the right to reject.So it was probably only a quarter of a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tctheatc Posted April 23, 2011 at 12:45 AM Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 at 12:45 AM Gotcha. In context my assumption was "...accepted to be effective" or as you say, or rejected.Poor linguistic technique on my part, and I apologize. At least I had the applicable RONR specifics correct!Thank you both for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted April 23, 2011 at 01:13 AM Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 at 01:13 AM Poor linguistic technique on my part.Not to worry.I'm sure we all knew what you meant and I wouldn't have mentioned it but I think I was concerned when I read Eileen's reply that, "Well, you stated that a resignation requesting to be excused from duty must be accepted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eileen Posted April 23, 2011 at 02:32 PM Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 at 02:32 PM I truly appreciate your assistance. You confirmed my expection of the process and will proceed with caution. Thank You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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