PPCC SG ProTem Posted October 4, 2011 at 07:12 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 at 07:12 PM Our Student Government members asked a question, to which I could not find an answer. Is the elected president, who facilitates the meetings and only votes to make or break ties, counted toward the quorum requirements? This is for the joint sessions of the executive and senate branches. It does not involve the president's presence on committees. Thanks for the assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:13 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:13 PM You might want to take a look at this previous thread, with attention to posts #8 and #14 by Josh Martin. The upshot of that thread is that since your rules change the way the President's voting rights are defined, you (your membership) will need to interpret them and figure out what they mean and how they apply. Guidelines for bylaw interpretation can be found in RONR (11th Edition) on pages 588-591.--------------For followers here, the OP also posted this in another thread:This brings up a question I am trying to get answered. If the elected president of a body (in our case, a student government; not a committee) is only allowed by constitution and/or by-laws to vote to break ties or make ties, is this president a "voting member" of the body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:22 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:22 PM Our Student Government members asked a question, to which I could not find an answer. Is the elected president, who facilitates the meetings and only votes to make or break ties, counted toward the quorum requirements? This is for the joint sessions of the executive and senate branches. It does not involve the president's presence on committees. Thanks for the assistance.While Mr. Foulkes is busy jumping to conclusions, I would say it sounds like your president is a voting member and would count toward the quorum… barring any rules that specifically say or cleverly insinuate otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:26 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:26 PM To which conclusion did I jump? I merely linked a previous thread on a related and quite similar topic, and summarized what most repliers there said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:28 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:28 PM To which conclusion did I jump? I merely linked a previous thread on a related and quite similar topic, and summarized what most repliers there said.I was foreseeing that you would jump to the conclusion that I was insinuating that you jumped to a conclusion. I was right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:28 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 at 11:28 PM I was foreseeing that you would jump to the conclusion that I was insinuating that you jumped to a conclusion. I was right! Oh. Okay, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPCC SG ProTem Posted October 5, 2011 at 02:10 AM Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 at 02:10 AM Thank you for the assists and references. I will check them out. Right now, it looks like the answer lies in how our constitution and by-laws define voting member. That is where things could get dodgy, because our faculty adviser is not keen on enforcing interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted October 5, 2011 at 02:15 AM Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 at 02:15 AM Thank you for the assists and references. I will check them out. Right now, it looks like the answer lies in how our constitution and by-laws define voting member. That is where things could get dodgy, because our faculty adviser is not keen on enforcing interpretation.Why is the faculty adviser doing the interpretation and enforcing? That duty should lie with the members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPCC SG ProTem Posted October 5, 2011 at 05:55 PM Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 at 05:55 PM I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted October 5, 2011 at 06:02 PM Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 at 06:02 PM I'm not sure.Fair enough. But unless the bylaws (or other governing documents) grant the faculty advisers the authority to interpret and enforce the rules they should stick to their advising and leave the rest to the members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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