Guest Jeff Posted November 28, 2012 at 02:07 AM Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 at 02:07 AM If it is set to rule that certain folks dont have voting privileges does nominating and seconding fall into this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted November 28, 2012 at 02:34 AM Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 at 02:34 AM There is two major schools of thought on the subject. One is that a member retains all rights of membership that aren't removed. The other school of though is that once you remove a right of membership they are no longer a member as defined under RONR p. 3 and so any rights that are to be retained must be specifically granted to them. Take your pick. However, any rules that would grant rights of membership to nonmembers or disenfranchising members would need to be a bylaw level rule. Where is this rule disenfranchising these people located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeff Posted November 28, 2012 at 02:40 AM Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 at 02:40 AM Our standard operating procedures just state that members under probation period dont have voting priviledge. Does a nomination or motion fall under voting privledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted November 28, 2012 at 03:06 AM Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 at 03:06 AM I wouldn't consider making a nomination or motion to be a "voting privilege" but the answer is ultimately for you all to decide. However, I find it highly doubtful that "standard operating procedures" carry enough parliamentary weight to as a blanket statement disenfranchise a member because they are under a "probation period" unless it is located in the bylaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted November 28, 2012 at 04:21 AM Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 at 04:21 AM If it is set to rule that certain folks dont have voting privileges does nominating and seconding fall into this?That will largely depend on how your bylaws are worded. A class of members that "retains all rights, except the right to vote," would be able to exercise all other rights of membership. A class of members that, "may enter into debate," would not be able to make motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted November 28, 2012 at 01:47 PM Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 at 01:47 PM The other school of though is that once you remove a right of membership they are no longer a member as defined under RONR p. 3 and so any rights that are to be retained must be specifically granted to them. Take your pick.But, before you pick, see the footnote on p.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted November 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM There is two major schools of thought on the subject. One is that a member retains all rights of membership that aren't removed. The other school of though is that once you remove a right of membership they are no longer a member as defined under RONR p. 3 and so any rights that are to be retained must be specifically granted to them. Take your pick. Both schools of thought are valid. It depends on the wording of the Bylaws, as J. J. notes. A careful reading of the Bylaws along with the Principles of Interpretation (especially #4, 5, 6, and 8) should help determine which school of thought to follow. See RONR, 11th ed., pgs. 588-591. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 1, 2012 at 09:20 PM Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 at 09:20 PM Our standard operating procedures just state that members under probation period dont have voting priviledge. Does a nomination or motion fall under voting privledge.Only your bylaws can abridge a fundamental right of membership, such as voting. No special rule or standing rule can do so, so I don't believe an SOP could do so either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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