Guest sandee Posted February 1, 2013 at 10:31 PM Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 at 10:31 PM I will be helping with a high school competition in PP. I received the contest "problem" which had been used in a national contest today, which includes the pretend minutes of a meeting from which they glean the information they will use to present the competition meeting.. In these problem minutes, they report a motion which was tabled to the next meeting. I have always been told that tabled motions should (must) be handled at that same meeting....that postponing was the way to do that correctly. If I use these minutes to train this new team, which I have been encouraged to do, how do I explain this to the students? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 1, 2013 at 10:42 PM Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 at 10:42 PM If I use these minutes to train this new team, which I have been encouraged to do, how do I explain this to the students?Direct them to FAQ #12 (and the corresponding text in RONR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted February 1, 2013 at 10:43 PM Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 at 10:43 PM Tell them that the "pretend minutes" were prepared by a "pretend parliamentarian" and that they are simply wrong in that respect.And complain, vigorously, to the management.Actually, Tabled motions can go over to the next meeting if no one moves to take them from the table at the current meeting. But "tabled to the next meeting" is simply an error. As you note, "postponing to the next meeting" is entirely proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sandee Posted February 2, 2013 at 12:32 AM Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 at 12:32 AM thank you both so much...it has always been a pet peeve of mine...especially when I'm trying to teach them well. It's been years since I've actually coached...so I'm sure you'll see other posts in the next 2 months.Sandee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 2, 2013 at 12:37 AM Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 at 12:37 AM . . . I'm sure you'll see other posts in the next 2 months.Then you might as well become a member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 6, 2013 at 07:05 AM Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 at 07:05 AM Well, It is in order to table something, and then fail to take it up again before adjournment, in which case the motion does remain on the table until the next meeting. So It is possible that a motion can be "tabled until the next meeting", but the motion "to table this until the next meeting" is never in order. It's not possible to tell from your paraprhase of the sample minutes what actually occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 6, 2013 at 01:44 PM Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 at 01:44 PM It's not possible to tell from your paraphrase of the sample minutes what actually occurred.Nothing actually occurred. It was a contest problem with "pretend minutes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted February 6, 2013 at 01:50 PM Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 at 01:50 PM Nothing actually occurred. It was a contest problem with "pretend minutes".But you have yet to tell us what, exactly, these pretend minutes say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 17, 2013 at 02:06 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 at 02:06 AM But you have yet to tell us what, exactly, these pretend minutes say.Or at least what they pretend to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joe Posted March 3, 2013 at 03:55 PM Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 at 03:55 PM is it true that only the person making the motion to table can take the motion off the table. when an item is taken frpm the table, does it always return to the same posture as when it was originally tabled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted March 3, 2013 at 06:26 PM Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 at 06:26 PM is it true that only the person making the motion to table can take the motion off the table.No. Any member may make the motion to Take from the Table.when an item is taken frpm the table, does it always return to the same posture as when it was originally tabled?Generally yes, but there are some exceptions (mostly relating to the rules of debate). See RONR, 11th ed., pg. 303, line 18 - pg. 304, line 2 for more information.Additionally, for future reference, it is best to start a new topic when asking a new question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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