Can a motion be ruled out of order if it has already been seconded and voted on and approved?

[GregoryHofer]

I believe it is stated in RONR somewhere that a motion can still be out of order even if it is discoved after the fact.

After the second, after the vote which approved the motion as written.

If a organization finds out anytime after a motion is approved that it is out of order, then it becomes

out of order and any action that results from that motion is out of order as well?

Can someone quote a page number in RONR where this is stated?

[Chris Harrison]

Unless the reason the motion was out of order is based on one (or more) of the exceptions to the timeliness rule on RONR p. 251 it is too late to do anything now (RONR pp. 250-251).

[J. J.]

If there is a violation of due process, it would be void as a violation of "rule protecting a basic right of an individual member (p 251 e.)."

[GregoryHofer]

So in this case, our President stepped outside of the Executive Board Room Meeting to use the bathroom.

When he was out of the room they motioned to suspend him pending a hearing as allowed per our bylaws.

They had previously tried to suspend him when he was in the room but he would rule their motion to suspend out of

order based on other provisions in our International Constitution. Does this sound possible or even legit to you Parliamentarians

out there?

[Josh Martin]

So in this case, our President stepped outside of the Executive Board Room Meeting to use the bathroom.

When he was out of the room they motioned to suspend him pending a hearing as allowed per our bylaws.

They had previously tried to suspend him when he was in the room but he would rule their motion to suspend out of

order based on other provisions in our International Constitution. Does this sound possible or even legit to you Parliamentarians

out there?

A main motion which conflicts with the Constitution is indeed null and void, so it may be ruled out of order after the fact. As usual, such a ruling is subject to appeal. Whether the motion does conflict with the Constitution is beyond the scope of this forum and will be up to the organization to interpret. See RONR, 11th ed., pgs. 588-591 for some Principles of Interpretation.