adjourn meeting before vote can be recorded

[Guest pam]

The park Committee had a vote and it was 5 to 2 with the yeas taking it. Before anything was said the chair Adjourned the meeting with a vote of 5 to 2 not to adjourn the chair left the room the vote was not recorded is this legal. Dose the vote stand.

[Transpower]

I'm not sure I follow this.  The vote to adjourn was negative, but the chair left the meeting?  The chair should have stayed and continued with business.  The vote on the motion of the park committee would be legal, whether or not it was recorded.  At the next meeting, a member should move to correct the minutes to record the vote.  But:  most committees don't have minutes--so I'm assuming it's your custom to have them.

[Josh Martin]

The park Committee had a vote and it was 5 to 2 with the yeas taking it. Before anything was said the chair Adjourned the meeting with a vote of 5 to 2 not to adjourn the chair left the room the vote was not recorded is this legal. Dose the vote stand.

Did the chair declare the motion adopted? If not, did anyone raise a Point of Order? Did anyone raise a Point of Order when the chair improperly declared the meeting adjourned? Did the assembly elect a Chairman Pro Tempore after the chair left?

In any event, I'd recommend the committee report the chair's behavior to the parent assembly, so that it can (hopefully) promptly replace him.

I'm not sure I follow this. The vote to adjourn was negative, but the chair left the meeting? The chair should have stayed and continued with business. The vote on the motion of the park committee would be legal, whether or not it was recorded. At the next meeting, a member should move to correct the minutes to record the vote. But: most committees don't have minutes--so I'm assuming it's your custom to have them.

I concur that failing to adjourn the meeting would not invalidate the vote, but we are also told that the chair improperly declared the meeting adjourned before anything was said. This may mean that the chair did not declare the motion adopted. This is improper, but if no timely Point of Order was raised, then it seems the motion was not adopted. Since the motion was still made, the minutes (if they are taken) should still be corrected.

[Curiosulus]

Will the motion be pending as unfinished business at the next committee meeting?

[George Mervosh]

Will the motion be pending as unfinished business at the next committee meeting?

 

Committees do not follow the standard order of business that regular assemblies do.  Most of it isn't applicable.  If no result was declared, they should just make the motion anew and go from there.

[Curiosulus]

So I'm looking at RONR(11th ed.), p.236, "Effect of adjournment on pending business…" Are you saying that neither a) nor  apply to adjournment of a committee meeting?

[Gödel Fan]

If the assembly votes against adjournment, and the chair gets up and leaves, the assembly should continue.  The chair can't unilaterally end a meeting by leaving.

[George Mervosh]

So I'm looking at RONR(11th ed.), p.236, "Effect of adjournment on pending business…" Are you saying that neither a) nor  apply to adjournment of a committee meeting?

 

My understanding is those rules apply to an assembly, which a committee is not (p. 489)

[Curiosulus]

My understanding is those rules apply to an assembly, which a committee is not (p. 489)

 

So if a motion is pending at the end of a special committee meeting, it's not still pending at the beginning of the next meeting, which is a continuation of the same session (p.500, l.1-2)?

[George Mervosh]

So if a motion is pending at the end of a special committee meeting, it's not still pending at the beginning of the next meeting, which is a continuation of the same session (p.500, l.1-2)?

 

Actually I would advise them to pick up right where they left off and bring it up again immediately, but that's not the same thing as coming up under a heading of "unfinished business", which is what your first two questions relate to.

[Dan Honemann]

So if a motion is pending at the end of a special committee meeting, it's not still pending at the beginning of the next meeting, which is a continuation of the same session (p.500, l.1-2)?

 

I'm rather sure that guest Pam's park committee is not a special committee.