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Hello, if an organization had a vote and the following discrepancies took place: 1. the ballot was presented incorrectly, 2. the instructions for voting were not explained correctly, 3. the number of voting members was misrepresented for a 2/3 vote, 4. the results were announced without the opportunity for discussion, and 5. the president adjourned the meeting without asking for discussion.........is there something in Roberts Rules that justifies a recall vote?

 

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8 hours ago, Guest Dee said:

Hello, if an organization had a vote and the following discrepancies took place: 1. the ballot was presented incorrectly, 2. the instructions for voting were not explained correctly, 3. the number of voting members was misrepresented for a 2/3 vote, 4. the results were announced without the opportunity for discussion, and 5. the president adjourned the meeting without asking for discussion.........is there something in Roberts Rules that justifies a recall vote?

 

I'm afraid that these "discrepancies" are described in so vague a fashion as to make it impossible to provide a meaningful answer. The odds are that the answer to your question is "no", but greater detail (especially with respect to 1,2,and 3) might prove helpful.

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OK...

1. The names of all approved perspective candidates are listed on one ballot. The ballot must list each prospective candidate and include a place to indicate "Yes" or "No" (for a 2/3 votes). The ballot had a space for a check mark for an affirmative vote only. Because of this, a person was not able to receive a 2/3 vote of the votes cast by the membership voting on each prospective candidate.

2. Since the ballot did not reflect the "yes" or "no" space, members were asked to correct it by adding another line to the ballot for the "no" vote. It was then, the presiding chair advised that you should check either "yes" or "no"...she did not explain that a person could abstain from voting on that individual. She implied that an abstention vote was a "no" vote. And that does not hold true for a 2/3 vote for each prospective candidate.

3. The body was advised that we had a total body count of 55 prior to the tellers counting the vote for results; when the results were read...the tellers advised there were 57 voting members. This may have impacted the vote on an individual prospective candidate.

Let me know if this helps.

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Well, it does seem as if there was some confusion with respect to the manner in which members were to vote "no" with respect to any candidate, but since members were instructed to add another place for "no" votes, I would not regard the chair's failure to advise members that they could abstain, or implying that an abstention was equivalent to a "no" vote if it was not, as being fatal errors.

As to this latter point, if the vote required for admittance to membership was a vote of two-thirds of the members present, then an abstention would have the same effect as a "no" vote. If the vote required was simply an unqualified two-thirds vote, then an abstention would have no effect at all, and the number of members present would be irrelevant.

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