Guest Mari Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:18 AM Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:18 AM A motion was made,seconded, voted on and passed by the board members of our organization. The motion was to replace a paragraph currently reading "blah,blah" with a paragraph reading "this blah,blah" in our bylaws. The new paragraph deletes very few of the words, adds 2 beginning sentences, and reorganizes the paragraph so that it is better ordered and does not jump around. It was sent to be published in our newsletter so that it can be voted on by the membership at our next meeting. Now a member says it must be broken down into a number of motions itemizing remove this and add this. Can't a motion be made to substitute a current paragraph with another paragraph? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:34 AM Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:34 AM Replacing a paragraph with an entirely new paragraph is perfectly acceptable. This is called a "substitute." The rules for substitute begin on page 153 of RONR 11th edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:55 AM Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:55 AM See also page 305, explaining that amend something previously adopted may be used to substitute one text for another. Amending the bylaws is a special form of the motion to amend something previously adopted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mari Posted February 16, 2019 at 06:06 AM Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 06:06 AM Thank you. I will let our board know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted February 16, 2019 at 07:05 AM Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 07:05 AM 1 hour ago, Joshua Katz said: Amending the bylaws is a special form of the motion to amend something previously adopted. Oops. I must have missed that part. Perhaps this also might be of interest. Quote Sometimes a more extensive change is proposed involving the substitution of an entire section, group of sections, or article. In such a case, often only a few separated passages are actually involved in the changes, and they are offered in the form of a single proposed substitute in order to avoid time-consuming separate action on each change. The text of the substitute should then be given with the notice of proposed amendment, or the notice should delineate each of the actual changes, and only changes within the scope of those contained in the substitute can be considered. Portions of the substitute which remain as in the existing version cannot be amended, since they involve areas for which no notice of proposed change was given. RONR 11th edition page 593. So the notice says here is the old text and here is the proposed new text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.Krampitz Posted March 3, 2019 at 12:32 AM Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 at 12:32 AM I am Bylaws Chairman for a district organization, part of a nationally recognized organization. The zone's bylaws have not been update in over thirty years. National has now offered an updated template for zones to follow. Though the old and new are very similar I would like to propose that in amending/updating their bylaws, a motion be used to "substitute" the over thirty year set with the new updated template. Instead of motions to "strike and insert" etc. I would like to recommend a full substitution (with advance proper notice) while presenting the thirty year set and then the updated template. Has anyone experienced this? Comments, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted March 3, 2019 at 12:42 AM Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 at 12:42 AM (edited) Guest Krampitz, the preferred practice on this forum is to start a new thread rather than adding to one that is similar. Please see the first post on this forum. Edited March 3, 2019 at 12:43 AM by Atul Kapur Added link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted March 3, 2019 at 01:07 AM Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 at 01:07 AM 32 minutes ago, J.A.Krampitz said: Has anyone experienced this? Comments, please. Oh, yes... You are, quite properly, proposing a "General Revision" -- use that term instead of "full substitution" and you will keep the parliamentary gods at bay -- then turn to page 593 and read important details bout the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.Krampitz Posted March 3, 2019 at 11:53 PM Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 at 11:53 PM Thanks for all help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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