Guest Michael Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:44 AM Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:44 AM When opening a meeting where both a prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance is said ...what goes first the prayer or the pledge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:52 AM Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 12:52 AM I have heard, in the dim, dark past, the phrase "God before Country" as applicable. That is what RONR says, too, under "Optional Headings, page 360. But in this increasingly secular (and contentious) age, who knows. It is optional and up to the association, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted March 11, 2019 at 01:34 AM Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 01:34 AM If you were God and a group acknowledged the flag of some country before they acknowledged you, how would feel about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted March 11, 2019 at 01:43 AM Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 01:43 AM 53 minutes ago, Guest Michael said: When opening a meeting where both a prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance is said ...what goes first the prayer or the pledge? You can do it any way you want to, but if you want to follow accepted custom and protocol, it is "God before Country". Prayer (invocation) first then the Pledge of Allegiance. It's also the way RONR says it should be done, as Dr. Stackpole stated. Here is the quote from page 360-361: Opening Ceremonies or Exercises. Opening ceremonies immediately after the meeting is called to order may include the Invocation (which, if offered, should always be placed first), the singing of the National Anthem, the reciting of the [page 361] Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, a ritual briefly recalling the objects or ideals of the organization, or the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted March 11, 2019 at 02:22 AM Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 02:22 AM 46 minutes ago, Guest Zev said: If you were God and a group acknowledged the flag of some country before they acknowledged you, how would feel about it? This is a very challenging question. I guess if I were God I probably wouldn't care - being omnipotent and omniscient would lessen any perceived sting of insult. But then, if I were God and also wrote the Bible, I suppose I'd be a jealous God...hard to say, really. Maybe I'd say "I see they saved the best for last." Or make a joke about "I thought it was age before beauty." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weldon Merritt Posted March 11, 2019 at 04:50 AM Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 04:50 AM 2 hours ago, Joshua Katz said: This is a very challenging question. I guess if I were God I probably wouldn't care - being omnipotent and omniscient would lessen any perceived sting of insult. But then, if I were God and also wrote the Bible, I suppose I'd be a jealous God...hard to say, really. Maybe I'd say "I see they saved the best for last." Or make a joke about "I thought it was age before beauty." 😈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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