Guest JASEN N Posted January 27, 2020 at 09:02 PM Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 at 09:02 PM IF OUR BY LAWS STATE THAT A NEW APPLICANT MUST RECIEVE 51% OF THE VOTE TO BE ALLOWED MEMBERSHIP STATUS , WOULD A 6 YES AND 6 NO VOTE BE A TIE OR WOULD IT BE A NO GO SINCE THE APPLICANT DID NOT MEET THE 51% REQUIRMENT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Fischer Posted January 27, 2020 at 09:16 PM Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 at 09:16 PM Six yea votes and six no votes comes out to 50%, not 51%. The motion would not be adopted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted January 27, 2020 at 11:20 PM Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 at 11:20 PM (edited) Both. It would be a tie and it would be a "no go" because it did not meet the 51% requirement (and even if you were a larger organization, 50.6 or 50.9% wouldnt be enough -- there's no rounding in RONR). BTW, it is better to use the term "majority vote" than 51%. Majority vote means more than half and sometimes that's not 51%. Edited January 27, 2020 at 11:23 PM by Atul Kapur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lages Posted January 28, 2020 at 03:12 AM Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 at 03:12 AM 3 hours ago, Atul Kapur said: BTW, it is better to use the term "majority vote" than 51%. Majority vote means more than half and sometimes that's not 51%. I thought the same thing, but then wondered whether this could be, in fact, a true statement, and the organization's bylaws actually require 51%, whether in the mistaken view that this is the definition of a majority or not. If Guest JASEN N is still reading this, perhaps he could give us the exact wording of the bylaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted January 28, 2020 at 04:04 AM Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 at 04:04 AM I agree, Bruce. I’ve been surprised at how many bylaws seem to actually require a 51% threshold for a motion to pass. I used to think the posters were paraphrasing and misquoting the bylaws, but then, when they post an exact quote such as with a copy and paste, the bylaws really do say 51%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 29, 2020 at 03:01 PM Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 at 03:01 PM Yes, and it is often an indicator that the drafting was somewhat haphazard, and that it is likely more problems will be found in other articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny Posted January 31, 2020 at 08:41 PM Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 at 08:41 PM On 1/27/2020 at 11:04 PM, Richard Brown said: I agree, Bruce. I’ve been surprised at how many bylaws seem to actually require a 51% threshold for a motion to pass. I used to think the posters were paraphrasing and misquoting the bylaws, but then, when they post an exact quote such as with a copy and paste, the bylaws really do say 51%. Yes - I suppose a lot of folks believe that 51% is the same as a majority. Symptom of poor education Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted January 31, 2020 at 09:01 PM Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 at 09:01 PM 18 minutes ago, Guest Danny said: Yes - I suppose a lot of folks believe that 51% is the same as a majority. Symptom of poor education I have Seen a PRP, in a training session, tell the attendees that a majority is 50% plus one. I kid you not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 1, 2020 at 01:22 AM Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 at 01:22 AM Oy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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