Mark Apodaca, PRP Posted October 2, 2020 at 08:41 PM Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 at 08:41 PM I have Motion Script Cards and the popular Parliamentary Motions - Quick Reference card. I found them to be different. This has to do with the topic above and here are the differences: Script Card Cannot interrupt the speaker Not debatable 2/3 without prior notice Not amendable Reconsiderable Quick Reference Card Cannot interrupt the speaker Requires a second Debatable 2/3 without prior notice Amendable ------------------------------- How I see it Delegate makes a motion to amend the agenda which passed yesterday. Seconded Opened for debate Can Amend (becomes a primary amendment) Vote - 2/3 required to pass Am I correct with the process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted October 2, 2020 at 08:48 PM Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 at 08:48 PM First, Amend Something Previously Adopted (ASPA) is amendable. Other than that, it appears you summary is correct. I would note subsidiary motion may be applied to ASPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted October 2, 2020 at 10:00 PM Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 at 10:00 PM ASPA can also be adopted by a vote of the majority of the entire membership. And only a negative vote can be reconsidered. RONR (12th ed.) 35:2 and also Table II(13) on t8-t9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Apodaca, PRP Posted October 3, 2020 at 11:58 AM Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 11:58 AM I did check RONR 12th edition before JJ's response. I was in the middle of the second day of a virtual conference (two more days to go) and ASPA was brought up. I gave the correct information but after seeing the script card, I began to wonder whether ASPA has a similar process as Previous Question. You need to pass Previous Question before you vote on the Main Motion. Because of the script card, which stated no debate and cannot be amended, I began to wonder if I needed to pass ASPA first before going into debating the motion which was previously adopted. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted October 3, 2020 at 01:24 PM Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 01:24 PM If your Script Card says what you say it says for the motion Amend Something Previously Adopted, throw away your Script Cards. This motion is a main motion. Debate on it can go into the merits of the question which it proposes to amend, but the question which it proposes to amend is not itself pending before the assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Apodaca, PRP Posted October 3, 2020 at 01:36 PM Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 01:36 PM Thank you sir... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Apodaca, PRP Posted October 3, 2020 at 06:00 PM Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 06:00 PM Regarding the same topic, in 2018 there was a resolution to name the month of April "Deaf History Month". It passed during the 2018 conference. Now, for 2020, a different resolution is on the table to rename March 15 to April 15 "Deaf History Month". As we know, a resolution is a motion. The 2020 resolution is out of order. If they want to change the date, they should use ASPA. ASPA has no time limits. Can be used any time no matter how far back. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Apodaca, PRP Posted October 3, 2020 at 06:39 PM Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 06:39 PM Of course, if it has been acted upon, it cannot be amended. If it has not been acted on, it can be amended. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted October 3, 2020 at 07:30 PM Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 at 07:30 PM 47 minutes ago, Mark Apodaca said: Of course, if it has been acted upon, it cannot be amended. If it has not been acted on, it can be amended. taken Mark Well, I would say that nothing can be done about any "Deaf History Months" that have already been observed based on the original resolution, but I would say the prior resolution can definitely be amended to apply to future "Deaf History Months". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted October 4, 2020 at 01:11 AM Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 at 01:11 AM 7 hours ago, Mark Apodaca said: Regarding the same topic, in 2018 there was a resolution to name the month of April "Deaf History Month". It passed during the 2018 conference. Now, for 2020, a different resolution is on the table to rename March 15 to April 15 "Deaf History Month". As we know, a resolution is a motion. The 2020 resolution is out of order. If they want to change the date, they should use ASPA. I seem to recall this coming up in a different thread (that I cannot find). As I recall, the 2018 resolution was abut lobbying for the government to designate "Deaf History Month." Without seeing the exact wording of the two motions/resolutions, it's hard to say whether the 2020 resolution is out of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted October 5, 2020 at 11:58 AM Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 at 11:58 AM On 10/2/2020 at 6:00 PM, Atul Kapur said: RONR (12th ed.) 35:2 and also Table II(13) on t8-t9 In this case, it would be #15 in the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Apodaca, PRP Posted October 5, 2020 at 04:01 PM Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 at 04:01 PM Thank you all for your support, advise, and comments. The last part of the session ran smoothly. I think it will be very educational if I write an article for NAP's National Parliamentarian related to being a parliamentarian for deaf related organizations. Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryn Ann Harlos Posted October 5, 2020 at 10:47 PM Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 at 10:47 PM Where did you get those script cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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