Tomm Posted December 1, 2021 at 04:50 PM Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 at 04:50 PM The board (9 members) typically always asks for a "second" during board meetings. If no "second" the chair declares the motion dead. Because small boards don't require a "second" can a member demand a vote be taken even if nobody "seconds' the motion? Granted, the outcome of the vote would no doubt be the same however, non-board members quests in attendance would get to see that! There seems to be nothing in the bylaws that states all motions require a "second". Are small boards required to function under the procedures for small boards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:07 PM Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:07 PM On 12/1/2021 at 11:50 AM, Tomm said: The board (9 members) typically always asks for a "second" during board meetings. If no "second" the chair declares the motion dead. Because small boards don't require a "second" can a member demand a vote be taken even if nobody "seconds' the motion? Granted, the outcome of the vote would no doubt be the same however, non-board members quests in attendance would get to see that! There seems to be nothing in the bylaws that states all motions require a "second". Are small boards required to function under the procedures for small boards? No. In your second paragraph do you mean a member of the board (because it would be silly if a board member demanded a vote and did not simply second the motion)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:16 PM Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:16 PM On 12/1/2021 at 12:07 PM, George Mervosh said: The board (9 members) typically always asks for a "second" during board meetings. If no "second" the chair declares the motion dead. There is nothing wrong with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:18 PM Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:18 PM I'm thinking in terms of the following: A board member makes a motion to divide the question but nobody "seconds" the motion. I understand how a "no-second" means nobody else is in favor of the motion but a forced vote would, kinda, expose the members more as individuals rather than a kinda hiding in anonymity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:21 PM Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:21 PM (edited) On 12/1/2021 at 12:16 PM, Dan Honemann said: There is nothing wrong with this. Other than I didn't say it, I agree! Edited December 1, 2021 at 05:21 PM by George Mervosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:38 PM Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:38 PM On 12/1/2021 at 12:18 PM, Tomm said: I'm thinking in terms of the following: A board member makes a motion to divide the question but nobody "seconds" the motion. I understand how a "no-second" means nobody else is in favor of the motion but a forced vote would, kinda, expose the members more as individuals rather than a kinda hiding in anonymity? I think it's time to give this one up, Tomm. As previously noted, the board is doing nothing wrong on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:47 PM Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 at 05:47 PM On 12/1/2021 at 10:38 AM, George Mervosh said: I think it's time to give this one up Roger-that! Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 1, 2021 at 10:31 PM Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 at 10:31 PM On 12/1/2021 at 12:18 PM, Tomm said: I'm thinking in terms of the following: A board member makes a motion to divide the question but nobody "seconds" the motion. I understand how a "no-second" means nobody else is in favor of the motion but a forced vote would, kinda, expose the members more as individuals rather than a kinda hiding in anonymity? Remember that some motions must be divided upon the demand of a single member. See: RONR (12th ed.) 27:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 2, 2021 at 03:30 PM Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 at 03:30 PM On 12/1/2021 at 10:50 AM, Tomm said: Because small boards don't require a "second" can a member demand a vote be taken even if nobody "seconds' the motion? Under the small board rules, yes. On 12/1/2021 at 10:50 AM, Tomm said: Are small boards required to function under the procedures for small boards? No. Further, it's not necessarily an all or nothing proposition. A small board could, for example, choose to have a requirement for motions to be seconded, but otherwise follow the procedures for small boards. In my experience, this is a fairly common arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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