rbk Posted February 10, 2022 at 01:29 PM Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 at 01:29 PM Is it proper to call a question as to whether to accept a proposed budget a referendum? The ballot we create when we consider whether to elect someone to our organization says something like, "Shall Jane Smith be elected to membership in XYZ." The ballot response options are "yes" and "no." Can that ballot question be called a referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 10, 2022 at 02:28 PM Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 at 02:28 PM On 2/10/2022 at 7:29 AM, rbk said: Is it proper to call a question as to whether to accept a proposed budget a referendum? The ballot we create when we consider whether to elect someone to our organization says something like, "Shall Jane Smith be elected to membership in XYZ." The ballot response options are "yes" and "no." Can that ballot question be called a referendum? RONR has no direct answer to this question. This term does not appear in RONR. Generally, this term is used to refer to a question placed upon the ballot for the electorate of a nation, state, or municipality to decide a question directly, as opposed to the question being decided by the legislature. Although not the original use, some private societies do also use the term in a similar manner - that is, a question decided directly by the membership of the organization in a ballot question, as opposed to the question being decided by the organization's Board of Directors (or other governing body). As noted above, RONR does not use this term. Ultimately, it will be up to the organization whether to use the term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted February 10, 2022 at 02:47 PM Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 at 02:47 PM Agreeing with Mr. Martin, I wonder if the organization has a rule that causes it to matter, i.e. a different procedural requirement. OP, is that the case, and if so, would you mind quoting the rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbk Posted February 10, 2022 at 03:42 PM Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 at 03:42 PM On 2/10/2022 at 9:47 AM, Joshua Katz said: Agreeing with Mr. Martin, I wonder if the organization has a rule that causes it to matter, i.e. a different procedural requirement. OP, is that the case, and if so, would you mind quoting the rule? Mr. Katz, My organization has no rule that causes it to matter. The term referendum does not appear in any of our governing documents. Is there a better term to use to describe a "question decided directly by the membership of the organization in a ballot question"? The terms question and ballot question can be ambiguous in some contexts, especially when brevity is needed, e.g., in the subject line of an email. (I deeply appreciate this forum and your and Mr. Martin's expertise.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted February 10, 2022 at 04:01 PM Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 at 04:01 PM On 2/10/2022 at 10:42 AM, rbk said: The term referendum does not appear in any of our governing documents. In that case, calling it that seems neither a harm nor an advantage. On 2/10/2022 at 10:42 AM, rbk said: Is there a better term to use to describe a "question decided directly by the membership of the organization in a ballot question"? I would defer to Mr. Martin on this. I can't think of a good term at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted February 10, 2022 at 04:47 PM Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 at 04:47 PM On 2/10/2022 at 10:42 AM, rbk said: Mr. Katz, My organization has no rule that causes it to matter. The term referendum does not appear in any of our governing documents. Is there a better term to use to describe a "question decided directly by the membership of the organization in a ballot question"? The terms question and ballot question can be ambiguous in some contexts, especially when brevity is needed, e.g., in the subject line of an email. (I deeply appreciate this forum and your and Mr. Martin's expertise.) It may help if you tell us what type of questions need to be decided by the full membership vs those that are decided by a smaller body (e.g., your executive board or a "council" if you have one). I don't have a problem with "referendum" in the context you describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted February 10, 2022 at 05:53 PM Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 at 05:53 PM On 2/10/2022 at 7:29 AM, rbk said: Is it proper to call a question as to whether to accept a proposed budget a referendum? I find the term "referendum" ambiguous and confusing when used in the context of a main motion that a budget be adopted. I would not recommend it. On 2/10/2022 at 7:29 AM, rbk said: "Shall Jane Smith be elected to membership in XYZ." Again, "referendum" in the context of a main motion that someone be admitted as a member, is ambiguous and confusing. I would not recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 11, 2022 at 12:13 AM Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 at 12:13 AM On 2/10/2022 at 9:42 AM, rbk said: Mr. Katz, My organization has no rule that causes it to matter. The term referendum does not appear in any of our governing documents. Is there a better term to use to describe a "question decided directly by the membership of the organization in a ballot question"? The terms question and ballot question can be ambiguous in some contexts, especially when brevity is needed, e.g., in the subject line of an email. (I deeply appreciate this forum and your and Mr. Martin's expertise.) It's sounding to me the issue here is less what to call this and more how to get the attention of the membership so they open the email. Why not put something like "IMPORTANT - PLEASE VOTE" in the subject line? (This is solely my personal suggestion and not based on anything in RONR.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbk Posted February 11, 2022 at 02:47 AM Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 at 02:47 AM I will avoid using the term referendum to describe a ballot question presented to the general membership of our organization. I appreciate everyone's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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