Guest Don Posted December 23, 2023 at 10:53 PM Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 at 10:53 PM If a call for the question occurs, but a second wasn’t ask for or a 2/3 vote taken and no one called a point of order, the main motion was voted on anyway does that waive the second needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 23, 2023 at 11:53 PM Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 at 11:53 PM (edited) If the Previous Question is moved, and not seconded, but a vote is taken anyway, then it's too late to raise a point of order about the lack of a second, regardless of the outcome of the vote. Edited December 23, 2023 at 11:53 PM by Gary Novosielski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted December 24, 2023 at 01:00 AM Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 at 01:00 AM Agreeing with Mr. Novosielski, I'd point out it's not just the lack of a second that's material here, but also the fact that there was no vote on Previous Question. In any event, though, it is too late now to complain, and the result stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted December 24, 2023 at 04:43 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 at 04:43 PM On 12/23/2023 at 8:00 PM, Joshua Katz said: In any event, though, it is too late now to complain, and the result stands. Well, Don and anyone else can complain as little or as much as they want, but the result still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Councilman2023 Posted December 24, 2023 at 05:31 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 at 05:31 PM The call for the question didn’t get a second or a vote but the main motion did I believe is what he’s saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weldon Merritt Posted December 24, 2023 at 05:51 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 at 05:51 PM On 12/24/2023 at 10:31 AM, Councilman2023 said: The call for the question didn’t get a second or a vote but the main motion did I believe is what he’s saying. That's the way I read it, too. But it's still too late to raise a Point of Order. The result of the vote on the MM stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Councilman2023 Posted December 24, 2023 at 05:52 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 at 05:52 PM 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 24, 2023 at 07:21 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 at 07:21 PM From the description given, whatever happened, the final vote on the main motion was taken, and apparently nobody in the assembly had a problem with it at the time, so at this point it's crying over spilled milk. Rules do not enforce themselves. If you notice a rule being broken, it's very often a matter of speak now, or forever hold your peace. There are a handful of situations where the breach of the rules is a continuing matter, and a point of order can be raised as long as the breach continues, but in a case like this, nobody objected to their rights to debate being cut off, and objection at this point is no longer timely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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