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Kjottmar

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On 1/18/2024 at 1:26 AM, Kjottmar said:

If we have 10 people present, and one person abstains from a vote, does their choice to not participate in that vote mean that we are now under quorum (with only 9 participating members)?

No.

On 1/18/2024 at 1:26 AM, Kjottmar said:

Or are they still considered present and thus still part of quorum?

Yes. 

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On 1/18/2024 at 12:26 AM, Kjottmar said:

For our organization, there are 19 members and a quorum is 10. If we have 10 people present, and one person abstains from a vote, does their choice to not participate in that vote mean that we are now under quorum (with only 9 participating members)? Or are they still considered present and thus still part of quorum?

"As indicated in 3:3, a quorum in an assembly is the number of members (see definition, 1:4) who must be present in order that business can be validly transacted. The quorum refers to the number of members present, not to the number actually voting on a particular question." RONR (12th ed.) 40:1, emphasis added

Assuming the member remains in the room, the member is still present.

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On 1/18/2024 at 1:26 AM, Kjottmar said:

For our organization, there are 19 members and a quorum is 10. If we have 10 people present, and one person abstains from a vote, does their choice to not participate in that vote mean that we are now under quorum (with only 9 participating members)? Or are they still considered present and thus still part of quorum?

Quorum refers to the number present, not the number voting.  That's why vote thresholds use the phrase "present and voting", because one does not imply the other automatically.

Members are still considered present if they are still present.

If they "abstain" by walking out, they are not considered present.

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