Dan Honemann Posted March 9, 2024 at 03:53 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 at 03:53 PM On 3/9/2024 at 10:33 AM, Rob Elsman said: I don't mean to imply that rules cannot be suspended. Much of the common parliamentary law is suspendable. My point is that the "vanilla" rules in the book can apparently be used to reach this bizarre result. This, for me, is like the rabbit hole to Alice's Wonderland. Serious reservations are raised in my mind that the premises of the argument are correct. I still don't understand this. What distinguishes "vanilla" rules from other rules? And again, why in the world would you suggest using the complicated, multi-motion process you suggest using, especially since you don't think it will work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted March 9, 2024 at 03:56 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 at 03:56 PM Well, this is certainly fair. I was trying to wrap up the most common procedures written into the book under a one-word shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted March 9, 2024 at 03:59 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 at 03:59 PM I would feel the need to mention this path, though I have my reservations about it, because of the respect and authority that you, Mr. Honemann, have acquired in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 9, 2024 at 04:35 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 at 04:35 PM On 3/8/2024 at 6:42 PM, Rob Elsman said: But my 15:8 is suspendable. 😆 Okay, but amendments aren't mentioned there (in my copy). 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 9, 2024 at 04:57 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 at 04:57 PM On 3/9/2024 at 10:18 AM, Dan Honemann said: I simply don't understand this at all. When such questions are asked, why not suggest moving to suspend the rules which interfere with prohibiting any amendment? Why do you see a need to suggest doing it in your extraordinarily convoluted solution? That's my question as well. Since 15:2 is the rule that limits the limiting, that's the rule that should be suspended, it seems to me. For completeness, I'd offer to add just four words to Mr. Gerber's suggestion: On 3/8/2024 at 4:10 PM, Shmuel Gerber said: Why not just move to [suspend the rules and] limit debate by forbidding the making of any amendments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted March 9, 2024 at 05:08 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 at 05:08 PM On 3/9/2024 at 10:35 AM, Gary Novosielski said: Okay, but amendments aren't mentioned there (in my copy) Quit tearing out the pages. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 9, 2024 at 05:10 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 at 05:10 PM On 3/9/2024 at 12:08 PM, Rob Elsman said: Quit tearing out the pages. 🤣 In the Kindle copy, the binding is somewhat insubstantial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted March 9, 2024 at 05:17 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2024 at 05:17 PM Dr. Stackpole used to refer to his hardcopy of the book as "deciduous". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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