Can a motion be made immediately after a vote has taken place requesting a subsequent vote 30 days later?

[Guest Pamela]

If there are 4 nominees vying for 1 position and a vote is taken where 51 out of 52 members present vote for a specific nominee, can a motion be made immediately after the vote has taken place to vote 30 days from now on the same 4 nominees for the 1 position? I'm told this is documented in Robert's Rules of Order but I'm not finding it. 

Thank you for considering my question.

[Rob Elsman]

Ask whoever told you to find it in the book, and then come tell us. We're all struggling to find it, too. 😉

 

[Dan Honemann]

On 4/9/2024 at 6:44 AM, Guest Pamela said:

If there are 4 nominees vying for 1 position and a vote is taken where 51 out of 52 members present vote for a specific nominee, can a motion be made immediately after the vote has taken place to vote 30 days from now on the same 4 nominees for the 1 position? I'm told this is documented in Robert's Rules of Order but I'm not finding it. 

Thank you for considering my question.

Such a motion is clearly not in order.

[Atul Kapur]

This most closely resembles a motion to Reconsider the vote on the election, but it is not clear from the information provided whether that would be in order at the time it was made.

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46:46 Time at Which an Election Takes Effect. An election to an office becomes final immediately if the candidate is present and  does not decline, or if he is absent but has consented to his candidacy. If he is absent and has not consented to his candidacy, the election becomes final when he is notified of his election, provided that he does not immediately decline. If he does decline, the election is incomplete, and another vote can be taken immediately or at the next meeting without further notice. After an election has become final as stated in this paragraph, it is too late to reconsider (37) the vote on the election.  [emphasis added]

 

Edited April 9, 2024 at 01:58 PM by Atul Kapur

[Dan Honemann]

On 4/9/2024 at 9:57 AM, Atul Kapur said:

This most closely resembles a motion to Reconsider the vote on the election, but it is not clear from the information provided whether that would be in order at the time it was made.

 

Well, I suppose it most closely resembles a motion to Reconsider and Enter on the Minutes, but that's a bit of a stretch.

[Josh Martin]

On 4/9/2024 at 5:44 AM, Guest Pamela said:

If there are 4 nominees vying for 1 position and a vote is taken where 51 out of 52 members present vote for a specific nominee, can a motion be made immediately after the vote has taken place to vote 30 days from now on the same 4 nominees for the 1 position?

The short answer is "no."

An election cannot be reconsidered unless the person who was elected is absent and has not yet been notified of their election, and even then, the person who makes the motion to Reconsider (or Reconsider and Enter on the Minutes) cannot mandate the time at which the reconsideration will occur.

On 4/9/2024 at 5:44 AM, Guest Pamela said:

I'm told this is documented in Robert's Rules of Order but I'm not finding it. 

I think the reason you can't find it is because this person made it up.

What RONR actually says on this subject can be found in RONR (12th ed.) 46:46.

On 4/9/2024 at 8:57 AM, Atul Kapur said:

This most closely resembles a motion to Reconsider the vote on the election, but it is not clear from the information provided whether that would be in order at the time it was made.

Even supposing a motion to Reconsider (or Reconsider and Enter on the Minutes) is in order (which I think is very unlikely), the maker of the motion cannot specify that such a motion will be called up in 30 days.

[Gary Novosielski]

On 4/9/2024 at 5:44 AM, Guest Pamela said:

I'm told this is documented in Robert's Rules of Order but I'm not finding it. 

Ask the person who told you that where it is.  (He won't be able to find it either.)