Guest Larry Schwartz Posted May 8, 2024 at 02:09 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2024 at 02:09 PM We recently had an election with two candidates running for the office. Both candidates were asked to submit a statement of candidacy. Candidate A did. Candidate B did not. The election administrator decided (?) not to print out Candidate A's statement on the ballot. Candidate B won by a very small margin (3) votes. Does Candidate A have any sort of a case to ask for another vote/run off because his statement was not printed for the membership to read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lages Posted May 8, 2024 at 03:35 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2024 at 03:35 PM Do your bylaws require the submission of a statement of candidacy in order to qualify as a candidate for office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Schwartz Posted May 8, 2024 at 04:44 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2024 at 04:44 PM No, not required...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lages Posted May 8, 2024 at 04:51 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2024 at 04:51 PM Then I don't think candidate A has any recourse to get a new election. RONR recognizes only a few reasons that would invalidate an election, and omitting an act that is not required is not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted May 8, 2024 at 05:09 PM Report Share Posted May 8, 2024 at 05:09 PM On 5/8/2024 at 10:09 AM, Guest Larry Schwartz said: We recently had an election with two candidates running for the office. Both candidates were asked to submit a statement of candidacy. Candidate A did. Candidate B did not. The election administrator decided (?) not to print out Candidate A's statement on the ballot. Candidate B won by a very small margin (3) votes. Does Candidate A have any sort of a case to ask for another vote/run off because his statement was not printed for the membership to read? I guess the real question to ask is what, if anything, do your bylaws or other rules say about the printing of candidate's statements on ballots or relating to any sort of distribution of such statements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted May 9, 2024 at 12:54 AM Report Share Posted May 9, 2024 at 12:54 AM On 5/8/2024 at 7:09 AM, Guest Larry Schwartz said: Both candidates were asked to submit a statement of candidacy. On 5/8/2024 at 9:44 AM, Guest Larry Schwartz said: No, not required...... Then who did the asking, and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted May 9, 2024 at 06:12 PM Report Share Posted May 9, 2024 at 06:12 PM On 5/8/2024 at 12:44 PM, Guest Larry Schwartz said: No, not required...... Then I think Candidate A is simply seeking to have a valid election overturned for no better reason than he don't like the result. Believe it or not, that does happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Schwartz Posted May 10, 2024 at 01:36 PM Report Share Posted May 10, 2024 at 01:36 PM So what you all are telling me is that besides being REALLY PISSED OFF at the Election Administrator for omitting A's statement, and besides the fact that a passionate and factual statement ( B has done some shady things in the past) which might have swayed, let's say 5 people to vote for A and not B (which would have won the election for A), unless there is something specific in the Bylaws, there is nothing Candidate A can do. Am I saying it correctly? Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted May 10, 2024 at 02:07 PM Report Share Posted May 10, 2024 at 02:07 PM On 5/10/2024 at 9:36 AM, Guest Larry Schwartz said: So what you all are telling me is that besides being REALLY PISSED OFF at the Election Administrator for omitting A's statement, and besides the fact that a passionate and factual statement ( B has done some shady things in the past) which might have swayed, let's say 5 people to vote for A and not B (which would have won the election for A), unless there is something specific in the Bylaws, there is nothing Candidate A can do. Am I saying it correctly? Thanks all. You have yet to answer my questions. I repeat: What, if anything, do your bylaws or other rules say about the printing of candidate's statements on ballots or relating to any sort of distribution of such statements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Schwartz Posted May 10, 2024 at 02:23 PM Report Share Posted May 10, 2024 at 02:23 PM Hi Dan, Sorry.... There is nothing written in our bylaws that relates to a candidates statement being on the ballot nor distributed to the membership. It's just a courtesy to a candidate if they want the membership to know why they are better suited for the job than the other candidates. Let me throw another wrinkle in this.....If the Election Administrator has some kind of "hidden agenda" and (s)he is good buds with Candidate B, it would be to B's advantage for A's statement not to be printed. Certainly not very ethical, but then again, not required. Thoughts? I know, I know......and if pigs could fly.......... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted May 10, 2024 at 02:42 PM Report Share Posted May 10, 2024 at 02:42 PM On 5/10/2024 at 10:23 AM, Guest Larry Schwartz said: Hi Dan, Sorry.... There is nothing written in our bylaws that relates to a candidates statement being on the ballot nor distributed to the membership. It's just a courtesy to a candidate if they want the membership to know why they are better suited for the job than the other candidates. Let me throw another wrinkle in this.....If the Election Administrator has some kind of "hidden agenda" and (s)he is good buds with Candidate B, it would be to B's advantage for A's statement not to be printed. Certainly not very ethical, but then again, not required. Thoughts? I know, I know......and if pigs could fly.......... Thanks Based upon what you say here, Candidate A voluntarily submitted a statement when asked to do so, although the request to do so was in no way authorized or required by your rules, and there is nothing in your rules saying anything at all about what should be done with such a statement if submitted. Under such circumstances, it seems to me that Candidate A has little to complain about. There is certainly no bases here for overturning the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Schwartz Posted May 10, 2024 at 03:16 PM Report Share Posted May 10, 2024 at 03:16 PM Dan, Thanks again for your knowledge, wisdom, and input. It is much appreciated! Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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