Treasurers Authority

[Guest Frank]

We have a 5 member HOA board.  If a vote is held to approve a proposal and the Treasurer doesn't vote in a timely manner, is his vote necessary if the vote for the cost has already been approved?

[Joshua Katz]

I don't really understand the question.  Was the treasurer at the meeting?

[Greg Goodwiller, PRP]

It sounds as though you are talking about some sort of vote taken outside of a meeting. The rules in Robert's Rules pertain to voting processes within meetings. If you take votes other than at a meeting, you must look to your own rules for guidance about the requirements.

 

[Richard Brown]

Guest Frank, unless you have a customized rule to the contrary, nobody's individual vote is essential for the passage of a motion.  All that is required is that the motion receives the required number of votes.  It doesn't matter which members those votes come from.

If we are misunderstanding your situation or your question, please clarify it for us. 

[Transpower]

Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting.  Then, to pass a motion, with three members present, two would have to vote in favor.  If four members are present, then three would have to vote in favor.  So, if the treasurer is absent, and you have at least three votes in the affirmative, the motion carries, regardless.

[Dan Honemann]

56 minutes ago, Transpower said:

Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting.  Then, to pass a motion, with three members present, two would have to vote in favor.  If four members are present, then three would have to vote in favor.  So, if the treasurer is absent, and you have at least three votes in the affirmative, the motion carries, regardless.

If the rules in RONR are controlling, I'm afraid that none of this appears to be correct.

[Gary Novosielski]

On 10/16/2017 at 9:47 AM, Transpower said:

Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting.  Then, to pass a motion, with three members present, two would have to vote in favor.  If four members are present, then three would have to vote in favor.  So, if the treasurer is absent, and you have at least three votes in the affirmative, the motion carries, regardless.

As long as a quorum is present At a regular or properly called meeting, only one vote is required to approve a motion, as long as that one vote constitutes a majority of those voting.  What you have described is only true if a majority of all present is required, and that is certainly not the regular rule.

Edited October 18, 2017 at 05:04 PM by Gary Novosielski
amended as indicated

[Gary c Tesser]

[Never mind about this.  How do ya delete a mis-quote box?]

On 10/16/2017 at 10:46 AM, Daniel H. Honemann said:

 

 

On 10/16/2017 at 9:47 AM, Transpower said:

Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting

 

3 hours ago, Gary Novosielski said:

f the rules in RONR are controlling, I'm afraid that none of this appears to be correct.

Pfui. I'm going to see if I can just post the putrid congeries and then just delete it.

[Gary c Tesser]

OK, starting from scratch.

On 10/16/2017 at 9:47 AM, Transpower said:

Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting.

 

On 10/16/2017 at 10:46 AM, Daniel H. Honemann said:

If the rules in RONR are controlling, I'm afraid that none of this appears to be correct.

IF you please, what's wrong with Transpower's first sentence? (Is it that the absence of a quorum does not invalidate that the meeting was held?)

[Dan Honemann]

4 hours ago, Gary Novosielski said:

As long as a quorum is present, only one vote is required to approve a motion, as long as that one vote constitutes a majority of those voting.  What you have described is only true if a majority of all present is required, and that is certainly not the regular rule.

And this is true even if a quorum is not present at a regular or properly called meeting. There are, as you know, some motions which are properly made and voted on even in the absence of a quorum.  

[Transpower]

I am, of course, assuming no abstentions.