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  1. I think it is time to create an HOA hit list of misused Roberts Rules. I will start with two items. Requiring seconds for motions when the size of the board is 12 or less The chair making a motion Please chime in with your hits and relevant quotes from Roberts Rules.
  2. I was just presenting an idea since you were asking for a solution in the post I replied to: > I don't know what more can be done in this regard. Maybe you don't want to hear this kind of ideas and that's fine with me.
  3. Making RR available for free would probably go a long way towards this goal. Right now only enlightened few have access to the full text and know what's in it.
  4. Unfortunately RR are often used to give legitimacy to stupidity via an appeal-to-authority. Pretending it isn't the case is disingenuous.
  5. Yeah, it works. The only issue at this point is unnecessary base64 encoding: From: =?UTF-8?B?VGhlIE9mZmljaWFsIFJPTlIgUSAmIEEgRm9ydW1z?= <noreply@invisioncloudcommunity.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?B?U2Vjb25kcy4=?=
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    Seconds.

    Thanks! Clearly not everybody is aware of this. The results are often hilarious.
  7. Roberts rules is a great set of rules for preventing lone dissenters from having their objections registered. A five person HOA board with a lone dissenter can effectively neutralize the impact the person can have on the proceedings. They can not even put a motion in place because ...... no seconds. Even worse when only the minimum quorum - 3 people - is present. Reminds me of two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. Should the seconds rule be relaxed in such small environments? The insistence on following the seconds rule under these conditions seem very superficial. You
  8. Quote of the year. Wonder if this "flexibility" was intended from the get-go.
  9. According to RR cumulative voting is bad. What is a better option for an HOA board of directors election?
  10. I think this is one of the shortcomings of RR where it never tries to be authoritative. From your example: a 10year voting deadline? Sure, no problem. Not stupid at all. Just make sure the rule is included in by-laws.
  11. LOL: My experience is getting a qualified lawyer to take a case against an HOA is difficult. It is just hard for an attorney to make a living this way. It is much easier to represent HOAs and their inflated budgets. My HOA puts 400k/year aside in cash reserves.
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